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Our phones and gadgets are now endangering the planet

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    delicious_grownups
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    Holy shit. That's so much energy just in fucking Bitcoin. It's crazy, the degree to which I've personally taken data consumption and internet use for granted in terms of its energy production. I...

    He mentions the vast amounts of electricity consumed by the operations of the online currency Bitcoin – which, at the height of the speculative frenzies earlier this year, was set to produce an annual amount of carbon dioxide equivalent to 1m transatlantic flights.

    Holy shit. That's so much energy just in fucking Bitcoin. It's crazy, the degree to which I've personally taken data consumption and internet use for granted in terms of its energy production. I mean, for years I think most people basically thought of the internet as an efficient and low impact system.

    Also, I agree that maybe binge watching isn't healthy and Netflix needs to adopt the Hulu model so I stop burning through shows in a week.

    One last serious question, how much energy and carbon emission is created from television and radio, and why or why isn't it as big a deal?

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      Rocket_Man
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      All electronics can be a big deal. But be sure not to generalize that Bitcoin statistic. Bitcoin is an exception because a ton of people are "mining" it. Which basically just entails making their...

      All electronics can be a big deal. But be sure not to generalize that Bitcoin statistic. Bitcoin is an exception because a ton of people are "mining" it. Which basically just entails making their computers run at maximum capacity 24/7. So while computers and the internet are surely large sources of power consumption, bitcoin is somewhat of an outlier in how large of an environmental disaster it is.

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      1. delicious_grownups
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        Well, it certainly seems like we're going to have to try and develop a better way to handle that data usage

        Well, it certainly seems like we're going to have to try and develop a better way to handle that data usage

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      IdiocyInAction
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      Yeah, Bitcoin really is kind of insane: https://digiconomist.net/bitcoin-energy-consumption

      Yeah, Bitcoin really is kind of insane: https://digiconomist.net/bitcoin-energy-consumption

      Bitcoin’s biggest problem is not even its massive energy consumption, but that the network is mostly fueled by coal-fired power plants in China. Coal-based electricity is available at very low rates in this country. Even with a conservative emission factor, this results in an extreme carbon footprint for each unique Bitcoin transaction.

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      Catt
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      I know I'm definitely bad for never really turning my stuff off and needing background TV. Use to just cook quietly, but now I almost always have my TV on regardless of if I'm watching anything....

      I know I'm definitely bad for never really turning my stuff off and needing background TV. Use to just cook quietly, but now I almost always have my TV on regardless of if I'm watching anything.

      Not exactly what you asked, but I thought this was interesting too The carbon footprint of one hour's TV production.

      You may also be interested in The surprising carbon footprint of a Google search. It's a short broadcast I caught half of on my way to work.

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      1. delicious_grownups
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        Thanks catt! Super interesting stuff. We really take all this for granted

        Thanks catt! Super interesting stuff. We really take all this for granted

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        delicious_grownups
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        Oh, sorry. For Hulu's native TV shows, they only air once a week during the course of their "season" much like television does. Of course all episodes are available once they've all been released,...

        Oh, sorry. For Hulu's native TV shows, they only air once a week during the course of their "season" much like television does. Of course all episodes are available once they've all been released, but you've got to wait if you're following along in real time just like you would if you were watching HBO

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          1. delicious_grownups
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            I'm certain it has an effect on those who are actively watching the shows, but I agree we'll never see that data

            I'm certain it has an effect on those who are actively watching the shows, but I agree we'll never see that data