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Huawei banned from 5G mobile infrastructure rollout in Australia

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    Heichou
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    That's exactly something a company owned by the Chinese government would say! In all seriousness, though, I don't blame the Minister. I've always felt that China was more a tentative ally of the...

    Huawei has previously denied it poses a national security risk and says it is 100 per cent owned by its employees — not the Chinese Government.

    That's exactly something a company owned by the Chinese government would say! In all seriousness, though, I don't blame the Minister. I've always felt that China was more a tentative ally of the U.S, and I can only imagine their alliance with Australia is a bit more tense. Not to sound rude or xenophobic, but I don't know that I could trust China with affairs as sensitive as that, considering their cultures'... less than reputable demeanor. Also socialism.

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      1. Heichou
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        Socialism seems to bring about a certain attitude and code of ethics that rubs other non-socialist countries or citizens the wrong way, to my understanding. Different mindsets

        Socialism seems to bring about a certain attitude and code of ethics that rubs other non-socialist countries or citizens the wrong way, to my understanding. Different mindsets

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      zendainc
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      Not sure I can talk about the international political level, but Australia actually has pretty close ties to China. We have a LOT of Chinese immigrants living here, many of whom retain their...

      Not sure I can talk about the international political level, but Australia actually has pretty close ties to China.

      We have a LOT of Chinese immigrants living here, many of whom retain their Chinese citizenship. I think that you would find on a personal level, American's are actually a lot less popular here than Chinese.

      Huawei being banned from this is actually a bit of a surprising move. Government regulated ISP's are all using their equipment. Meanwhile IBM is still blacklisted by at least the Queensland government.

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        Algernon_Asimov
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        Really? Apart from selling them our resources, and then buying the goods they make from our resources, what "close ties" do we have? Not really. It's been on the cards for months. There are...

        Not sure I can talk about the international political level, but Australia actually has pretty close ties to China.

        Really? Apart from selling them our resources, and then buying the goods they make from our resources, what "close ties" do we have?

        Huawei being banned from this is actually a bit of a surprising move.

        Not really. It's been on the cards for months. There are serious concerns by our intelligence agencies about Huawei's ties to the Chines Communist Party, plus the Chinese law requiring all companies to assist the Chinese government to gather data.

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        1. zendainc
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          Gee I wonder what close ties we have? Probably the massive amounts of trade we do with them maybe.... Chinese Australians also make up a bit under 6% of the Australian population. This number is...

          Apart from selling them our resources, and then buying the goods they make from our resources, what "close ties" do we have?

          Gee I wonder what close ties we have? Probably the massive amounts of trade we do with them maybe....

          Chinese Australians also make up a bit under 6% of the Australian population. This number is growing too, with China being the second largest source of immigrants to Australia in the last few years.

          Not sure what part of Australia you are in, but many regional towns have a relatively large Chinese population, who are usually very active in the community.

          Not really. It's been on the cards for months

          It seems dumb to exclude Huawei from a SINGLE network infrastructure project, when a sizable portion of Australia's backbone ISP infrastructure runs on their gear.

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        2. kingjames
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          I think s/he's probably referring to the very large pools of Chinese immigrants in Australia, a trend that isn't reciprocated in China. And maybe referring to the fact that they no doubt are...

          I think s/he's probably referring to the very large pools of Chinese immigrants in Australia, a trend that isn't reciprocated in China.
          And maybe referring to the fact that they no doubt are primary investors in our political system... if Sam Dastyari is any indication. Maybe he's an outlier, but I doubt it.

          So it's not exactly warm fuzzies.

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      2. Heichou
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        Hmm, that's weird then. I had no idea the relations between Australia and China. Pretty much all I knew is they weren't at war so it couldn't have been too hostile a reason

        Hmm, that's weird then. I had no idea the relations between Australia and China. Pretty much all I knew is they weren't at war so it couldn't have been too hostile a reason

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    3. Algernon_Asimov
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      China and Australia are not allies. We are trading partners. In fact, China is one of Australia's most significant trading partners. But that does not make them our allies.

      I can only imagine their alliance with Australia is a bit more tense

      China and Australia are not allies. We are trading partners. In fact, China is one of Australia's most significant trading partners. But that does not make them our allies.

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