Why the hell would anyone sign up for that? What kind of comparison is that? Also, that "told you so" tag is on point. ;)
John Donovan, head of AT&T’s satellite, phone and internet operations, ... compared AT&T throttling to an electricity grid where some customers sign up for rolling blackouts in return for cheaper service.
Why the hell would anyone sign up for that? What kind of comparison is that?
It's the kind of comparison you make when you've got a MBA and are isolated from the consequences of your decisions. Well, it was, but that tag got removed. Regardless, anybody paying attention...
Why the hell would anyone sign up for that? What kind of comparison is that?
It's the kind of comparison you make when you've got a MBA and are isolated from the consequences of your decisions.
Also, that "told you so" tag is on point. ;)
Well, it was, but that tag got removed. Regardless, anybody paying attention could have predicted that unregulated telco monopsonies would engage in such malfeasance at the first opportunity.
I knew mine was. All the signs were there so I did speed tests. Certain things were slower. Something I haven't been able to test and nail down though is - My data plan is 2 gigs. If I use it I...
I knew mine was. All the signs were there so I did speed tests. Certain things were slower.
Something I haven't been able to test and nail down though is -
My data plan is 2 gigs. If I use it I get throttled instead of paying more. At the start of the month when I am no longe throttled I swear, certain activities use more data than they typically do. It's like when they throttle me and my speed drops, certain tasks use less data than they were before I was throttled. And I have monitored it all. Same exact usage across the board but data drains faster before the throttle.
Mine definitely does. I sound like I'm wearing a tinfoil hat, but I swear I will do something when my data is not throttled and it eats up a ton of data. Then I do that exact same thing after I am...
Mine definitely does. I sound like I'm wearing a tinfoil hat, but I swear I will do something when my data is not throttled and it eats up a ton of data. Then I do that exact same thing after I am throttled and it eats up way less data. I mean I can't necessarily prove it because the stats are relative and not exact. But I know it happens I see the speeds and I see how much data is being eaten up even if that is a relative number.
It's not uncommon for various services to detect a slow network and automatically try to use less data. Background tasks in particular (Android/app updates for example), but of course things like...
It's not uncommon for various services to detect a slow network and automatically try to use less data. Background tasks in particular (Android/app updates for example), but of course things like Youtube, Netflix, or even ad providers will try to server smaller versions of their content if they think you're on a slower (or throttled) network.
I just moved and signed up for electrical that has something similar. Around 10-15 days a year, during peak times, I have a much higher price rate for power. I get a lower rate all the other time....
I just moved and signed up for electrical that has something similar. Around 10-15 days a year, during peak times, I have a much higher price rate for power. I get a lower rate all the other time. Not as extreme as rolling blackouts. I haven't had a peak time yet though.
There's two parts to this, one is "quality of service (QoS)" and the other is the net-neutrality/throttling stuff being talked about here. QoS is very important to healthy operation of any large...
There's two parts to this, one is "quality of service (QoS)" and the other is the net-neutrality/throttling stuff being talked about here.
QoS is very important to healthy operation of any large network, and relates to how the operator prioritizes certain entire classes of traffic over others. For example giving priority to voice calls over general data, and emergency 911 calls over everything else. Every operator does this, and it's well understood, expected, and in the case of 911, required.
The issue here relates to throttling within a traffic class, based on the origin of that traffic. Users are sold a general purpose internet connection of a certain speed/bandwidth, and providers are expected not to meddle with it just because I happen to be visiting site A instead of site B. It's fine (albeit annoying) to be limited because I hit some cap on the amount of data being used, but not fine if (hypothetically) the provider decides that I can't download email attachments at full speed unless I'm using their own service.
Why the hell would anyone sign up for that? What kind of comparison is that?
Also, that "told you so" tag is on point. ;)
It's the kind of comparison you make when you've got a MBA and are isolated from the consequences of your decisions.
Well, it was, but that tag got removed. Regardless, anybody paying attention could have predicted that unregulated telco monopsonies would engage in such malfeasance at the first opportunity.
I knew mine was. All the signs were there so I did speed tests. Certain things were slower.
Something I haven't been able to test and nail down though is -
My data plan is 2 gigs. If I use it I get throttled instead of paying more. At the start of the month when I am no longe throttled I swear, certain activities use more data than they typically do. It's like when they throttle me and my speed drops, certain tasks use less data than they were before I was throttled. And I have monitored it all. Same exact usage across the board but data drains faster before the throttle.
I thought it was using more data too. I suppose they want us all to have to pay as much as possible for "real" internet.
Mine definitely does. I sound like I'm wearing a tinfoil hat, but I swear I will do something when my data is not throttled and it eats up a ton of data. Then I do that exact same thing after I am throttled and it eats up way less data. I mean I can't necessarily prove it because the stats are relative and not exact. But I know it happens I see the speeds and I see how much data is being eaten up even if that is a relative number.
It's not uncommon for various services to detect a slow network and automatically try to use less data. Background tasks in particular (Android/app updates for example), but of course things like Youtube, Netflix, or even ad providers will try to server smaller versions of their content if they think you're on a slower (or throttled) network.
I just moved and signed up for electrical that has something similar. Around 10-15 days a year, during peak times, I have a much higher price rate for power. I get a lower rate all the other time. Not as extreme as rolling blackouts. I haven't had a peak time yet though.
There's two parts to this, one is "quality of service (QoS)" and the other is the net-neutrality/throttling stuff being talked about here.
QoS is very important to healthy operation of any large network, and relates to how the operator prioritizes certain entire classes of traffic over others. For example giving priority to voice calls over general data, and emergency 911 calls over everything else. Every operator does this, and it's well understood, expected, and in the case of 911, required.
The issue here relates to throttling within a traffic class, based on the origin of that traffic. Users are sold a general purpose internet connection of a certain speed/bandwidth, and providers are expected not to meddle with it just because I happen to be visiting site A instead of site B. It's fine (albeit annoying) to be limited because I hit some cap on the amount of data being used, but not fine if (hypothetically) the provider decides that I can't download email attachments at full speed unless I'm using their own service.