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Google asks Supreme Court to overrule disastrous ruling on API copyrights

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    Soptik
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    For me, Oracle is becoming less and less a tech company, and more and more a patent troll. "Oh, hey, Microsoft! Your C# String implementation has .toString method, just as Java has! Pay us!"...

    For me, Oracle is becoming less and less a tech company, and more and more a patent troll. "Oh, hey, Microsoft! Your C# String implementation has .toString method, just as Java has! Pay us!" (obviously exaggerating)

    The demands it has are just way over the roof. Take Dart, for example. It's programming language by Google, and it's syntax is almost the same as C# (or Java). It's very easy to change to Dart, simply because there are like 5 new things you have to learn. Imagine everyone behaved like Oracle, trying to get money every time someone's implementation is way too similar. If it was common, new products, especially from big companies, would have to be incompatible with anything else - simply because it would be the only way how to evade lawsuits.

    The demands Oracle has are, in my eyes, complete madness.

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    1. Greg
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      Does Oracle even make any best-in-class software anymore? I've heard that users of their database are contractually prohibited from releasing benchmarks, which isn't exactly a show of confidence.

      For me, Oracle is becoming less and less a tech company, and more and more a patent troll.

      Does Oracle even make any best-in-class software anymore?

      I've heard that users of their database are contractually prohibited from releasing benchmarks, which isn't exactly a show of confidence.

      4 votes
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      1. Soptik
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        Isn't patent troll a company that tries to get money from it's patents, which are usually broad and/or considered open standard otherwise? When I look at it, it looks like Oracle isn't completely...

        Isn't patent troll a company that tries to get money from it's patents, which are usually broad and/or considered open standard otherwise?

        When I look at it, it looks like Oracle isn't completely patent troll, but I think they're not too far from that - just because there are few android APIs that are similar to their Java APIs - lawsuit Google and want money because of it? That's clearly misuse of patents in my opinion.

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    3. spctrvl
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      There's an old joke getting truer by the day that Oracle is more of a litigation company with a software arm than the reverse.

      There's an old joke getting truer by the day that Oracle is more of a litigation company with a software arm than the reverse.

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  2. Soptik
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    Tl;dr: Oracle made some API structure in Java. Google made something similar. Oracle wants money from Google because the API structure Google made is too similar to Oracle's. So far Oracle is...

    Tl;dr:

    Oracle made some API structure in Java. Google made something similar. Oracle wants money from Google because the API structure Google made is too similar to Oracle's. So far Oracle is winning.

    Oracle had sued Google, arguing that Google had violated Oracle's copyright by re-implementing APIs from the Java programming language. The case has been working its way through the courts ever since, with the Federal Circuit issuing a second controversial ruling in 2018. On Thursday, Google asked the Supreme Court to overturn the Federal Circuit's controversial ruling.

    The problem is that about 3% (!) of Android API is way too similar to Java.

    5 votes