22 votes

Why CAPTCHAs have gotten so difficult

6 comments

  1. [5]
    vakieh
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    If you embrace Google's watchful eye, you'll be one of those magical people who don't get hit with captchas... ever. I use gmail, I use Chrome, google remembers all but a few critical passwords...

    If you embrace Google's watchful eye, you'll be one of those magical people who don't get hit with captchas... ever. I use gmail, I use Chrome, google remembers all but a few critical passwords for me, it has me GPS mapped pretty much at all times (that movement history page is both really cool and really creepy) - and the only time I get hit with a captcha is when I'm doing webdev stuff and haven't got my usual cookie etc profile riding along with me.

    I disrupt and obfuscate the stuff I feel I need to (its ad targeting fluctuates between thinking I have kids I don't and thinking I'm an old woman with some very interesting hobbies - when I see ads at all) and accept the rest.

    8 votes
    1. [4]
      unknown user
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      This seems about right. Meanwhile, as a Safari user who uses at most, Google Search & YouTube, I'm almost guaranteed to be presented with CAPTCHAs.

      This seems about right. Meanwhile, as a Safari user who uses at most, Google Search & YouTube, I'm almost guaranteed to be presented with CAPTCHAs.

      4 votes
      1. [3]
        test
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        Similarly, I block all external JavaScript by default, and I find myself increasingly subject to manual Captchas and being randomly locked out of services for suspicious activity. While total...

        Similarly, I block all external JavaScript by default, and I find myself increasingly subject to manual Captchas and being randomly locked out of services for suspicious activity. While total surveillance [by Google] might be an effective approach, it has the potential to banish from the web anyone who disagrees with the practice. For an extreme example, try using Tor as your default browser for a while. You'll find that the modern web simply doesn't work: Google rarely allows users to even attempt a Captcha, so you'll be locked out of anything that uses Google to verify its users. I find it very likely that, in the near future, casual anonymity while browsing the clearnet will no longer be possible.

        11 votes
        1. Soptik
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          It didn't took me long to figure it out after I started deleting cookies (I keep cookies from whitelisted sites until I restart browser) and started blocking 3rd party javascript. I was greeted by...

          Google rarely allows users to even attempt a Captcha

          It didn't took me long to figure it out after I started deleting cookies (I keep cookies from whitelisted sites until I restart browser) and started blocking 3rd party javascript. I was greeted by enormous amount of captchas. It's even worse when I use tor/vpn. For example, I tried to signup for a service - for 20 minutes. But nope, Google decided I'm forbidden to use the Web. I wasn't using vpn or tor at the time and I was greeted by unsolvable captcha. I ended up not signing up to it.

          For those lucky enough to not discover them: Google captchas has an option to hear & type few words instead of the image puzzle. If the captcha you are trying to solve is unbeatable, it won't let you choose the hearing variant of the captchas, it'll display an error message instead. When you encounter this captcha, you simply cannot succeed no matter how many picture puzzles you complete.

          Today, whenever I an greeted by a captcha, first of all I try to solve the hearing variant of it. If it doean't let me try the hearing variant, the captcha cannot be solved anyway. Trust me, I tried. A lot.

          5 votes
        2. alyaza
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          google is definitely the worst offender in this regard, but even websites not reliant on CAPTCHAs will often make it hard if not impossible to actively use their websites through Tor even if there...

          You'll find that the modern web simply doesn't work: Google rarely allows users to even attempt a Captcha, so you'll be locked out of anything that uses Google to verify its users. I find it very likely that, in the near future, casual anonymity while browsing the clearnet will no longer be possible.

          google is definitely the worst offender in this regard, but even websites not reliant on CAPTCHAs will often make it hard if not impossible to actively use their websites through Tor even if there are valid reasons to do so, so what you're stating is sorta-kinda already the case with a lot of websites.

          4 votes
  2. teaearlgraycold
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    What would be really interesting if this goes from training AI in image recognition to training them in emulating people. Imagine a CAPTCHAv3 where you're shown a video of someone and have to...

    What would be really interesting if this goes from training AI in image recognition to training them in emulating people. Imagine a CAPTCHAv3 where you're shown a video of someone and have to determine if they're lying. Or you're a professional software engineer and have to judge the quality of a snippet of code.

    6 votes