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How would you guys feel if Youtube followed Instagram and made views/likes/etc. private?
Curious how you guys feel about this as users, uploaders etc? Its an interesting question because this was generally viewed as a good move by instagram, would it be the same with Youtube.
Also, from what I understand a lot of drama on Youtube has been elevated because of public seeing the subs go up/down, maybe this would change how we analyse drama. I dont say this in the sense of someone who enjoys drama, but some of these things reflect social trends/situations.
Edit: I just want to add for clarification; Instagram is currently beta testing a feature where only you the poster can view how many likes and comments you get, the public cannot. The Youtube version would be hiding views/likes/subs from the audience, but not the content creator.
I give a lot more credence to videos that have comments enabled & ratings enabled, compared to those that don't. Both of these metrics are a quick preflight check to see if a video is worth watching or not; and I'm much, much more likely to quit out of a video if these features are disabled.
Really? That is interesting. I usually don't even read the comments until I finish the video or get bored of it.
Thats interesting, so you say you are more likely to share videos that have less views than that with a million, when both are of equal quality?
Yeah I can see that. I definitely do that when using imgur, weirdly never with Youtube :/
I disagree, but this is subjective so you are obviously entitled to your opinion.
I prefer transparency. Both as a user and content creator. Otherwise, it feels like you're interacting in a limbo, very hard to judge the impact that things have, or get feedback for actions.
I think youre talking from a users point of view? Do you think this the predominant point of view because you can go on so many popular Youtube videos and people are still commenting regardless of their being 10, 1,000, or 100,000 comments.
Both. Imagine you create videos but you don't know how many people are watching. You get a few comments once in a while when you're lucky. I have videos on YouTube with hundreds of views, but not many comments. You can get a sense of this "internet crowd". I also stream on Twitch, I'll often have around 20 viewers at a time. Imagine a room with 20 people, how does that room look? It's quite a lot of people. Likewise, the viewers themselves can visualize that.
For your question about popular videos. Some music videos have over 300 million views. In my life, I've seen what 200 thousand people look like at the same time. 300 million is a LOT of people. Remove that number and the video doesn't have the same impact.
I think the view count really helps visualize the line between real life and the virtual world. It's hard for people to understand that the internet is also real and real people use it. You're not actually alone in front of your computer. It's a public place.
Hmmm I think you might have misunderstood my main point, or more likely I didn't explain it well. In Instagram likes and comment numbers will still be viewable to the person who posted it, just not the public. So you would still get all the info you do today, but the public (audience) will not be able to see it. So you still get everything as a content creator.
Also I don't understand the point you are trying to make in your second and third paragraph. What do you mean impact? Why are we talking about real peope using the internet?
I don't use Instagram, I assumed based on the OP text that no one can see the number even the content creators.
By impact, I mean that removing the number is like putting everyone in separate rooms. Sure they might still be able to watch the video separately, but now there's less interaction between them. What I mean by impact is the interaction between people. Even if they don't comment or interact with the material, there's still something happening. If a lot of people are placed in a dark room and no one is talking, that's interesting in it's own way. If you're in that room with them, you can feel the power of the crowd. That's what I mean by impact. That's why I think the number is interesting even for non content creators.
I thought the whole point of seeing that was so we have an idea of what the video is like? if it's hidden there is no point in it even existing apart from clicking "like" on a video so that it's saved under your own liked videos.
Youtube "drama" is for morons, in my opinion.
From a user's perspective, is it? I never really look at the like/dislike stuff unless if I am looking at a tutorial. From a content creator (I am not one, so I assume) it is for understanding how users react to your video, and you would still have access to that.
Youtube "drama" in my opinion is not for morons in some occasions, in my opinion. These things can have real life implications. People can raise awareness of societal problems or can make them even worse. The EU law article 13 was it? That huge implications. Some lawsuit can also have massive effects on how the industry/internet/etc. all works. "Drama" isn't limited to he said she said, but also extends to legal matters.
well then it wouldn't be "drama", it would actually just be real drama which is acceptable given things like what you mentioned. I'm talking about those petty arguments online between channels and the like which, for some reason, the news thinks is something important and that I need to see on the TV.
also, I don't see how hiding the results really benefits anybody even if it doesn't really make things worse. The rating system would really have been more helpful.