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Inside the Secret Border Patrol Facebook Group Where Agents Joke About Migrant Deaths and Post Sexist Memes

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    dubteedub Link
    What is crazy to me is that the Border Patrol employs roughly 20,000 agents, and this Facebook Group has 9,500 members. To me, that shows it is impossible to claim that this is a minority of...

    What is crazy to me is that the Border Patrol employs roughly 20,000 agents, and this Facebook Group has 9,500 members. To me, that shows it is impossible to claim that this is a minority of hateful individuals within the system. They are the system.

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    1. ascii (edited ) Link Parent
      See also: To protect and slur: Inside hate groups on Facebook, police officers trade racist memes, conspiracy theories and Islamophobia, The Plain View Project is a database of public Facebook...

      See also:

      1. To protect and slur: Inside hate groups on Facebook, police officers trade racist memes, conspiracy theories and Islamophobia,

      2. The Plain View Project is a database of public Facebook posts and comments made by current and former police officers from several jurisdictions across the United States.

      3. Auditors say Facebook’s policy on white supremacy is still “too narrow.” That’s because it solely prohibits explicit praise, support or representation of the terms “white nationalism” or “white separatism,” but does not technically prohibit references to those terms and ideologies. “The narrow scope of the policy leaves up content that expressly espouses white nationalist ideology without using the term ‘white nationalist,'” the report states. “As a result, content that would cause the same harm is permitted to remain on the platform.”

      4. A. C. Thompson, the author of the ProPublica piece, has a remarkable body of work exposing organized organized hate groups and the complicity of "law enforcement".

      Sometimes it feels like the word "fascism" is overused or hyperbolic, but then we see how public agencies are increasingly aligned and realize we've actually been far too trusting and complacent.

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    2. dubteedub Link Parent
      As an update, it looks like CBP has put out a statement responding to this story and saying they will investigate. I dont know how much I trust any actual accountability to take place, but its a...

      As an update, it looks like CBP has put out a statement responding to this story and saying they will investigate. I dont know how much I trust any actual accountability to take place, but its a start.

      Border Patrol's response to our story on a secret, 9,500-member FB group for current and former @CBP agents containing violent, sexist and derogatory images about migrants and US congresspeople.

      https://twitter.com/propublica/status/1145776590913253376?s=09

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      NaraVara Link Parent
      According to WikiPedia it's a little over 45k That includes agricultural specialists and probably all the support staff as well. But it probably doesn't include the legions of federal contractors.

      According to WikiPedia it's a little over 45k

      That includes agricultural specialists and probably all the support staff as well. But it probably doesn't include the legions of federal contractors.

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        dubteedub Link Parent
        That is why I said agents, not personell. The Government Accounting Office says that the U.S. Customs and Border Protection in total employs 45,000 people. https://www.gao.gov/products/GAO-19-419T...

        That is why I said agents, not personell.

        The Government Accounting Office says that the U.S. Customs and Border Protection in total employs 45,000 people.

        https://www.gao.gov/products/GAO-19-419T

        To carry out these objectives, CBP employs nearly 45,000
        law enforcement personnel across its three operational components—the Office of Field Operations (OFO), U.S. Border Patrol ((Border Patrol), and Air and Marine Operations (AMO)—at and between U.S. ports of entry, in the U.S. air and maritime environment, and at certain overseas locations.1

        ...

        As of early February 2019, Border Patrol had 19,443 agents onboard, which is 6,927 agents below the target level, according to CBP.

        As this article is specifically about the Border Patrol, the 20,000 figure is appropriate here.

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        1. NaraVara Link Parent
          The issue is it's not really clear how closed the group is to non-agents. It's likely it could just be drawing from across the agency, agents or not. Ultimately that becomes a question of "are...

          The issue is it's not really clear how closed the group is to non-agents. It's likely it could just be drawing from across the agency, agents or not.

          Ultimately that becomes a question of "are ~50% of these people confirmed shitheads or merely 25%?" so it doesn't change the conclusions much.

          Full disclosure: I worked for DHS at the headquarters level under the Obama Administration. Even back then, CBP and ICE were absolutely toxic and racist and only barely held in check by the administration's political appointees. I left before the election, but I can only imagine after 2016 when the political appointees left it's the lunatics running the madhouse.

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