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  1. Comment on Minecraft's "Super Duper Graphics Pack" has been cancelled in ~games

    chembliss
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    You mean the rewrite or minetest?

    You mean the rewrite or minetest?

  2. Comment on Should clicking an article on Tildes be a prerequisite for posting a comment in the associated thread? in ~tildes

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    Did you even bother checking the link? It's not just that, and if you think that information can't be used and isn't worth money, you're being extremely naive and it isn't surprising at all that...

    Did you even bother checking the link? It's not just that, and if you think that information can't be used and isn't worth money, you're being extremely naive and it isn't surprising at all that you don't care about privacy. However Tildes does, it's one of its core points, so your personal preference matters little here.

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  3. Comment on Should clicking an article on Tildes be a prerequisite for posting a comment in the associated thread? in ~tildes

    chembliss
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    For example, because of user profiling. It would be totally against the principles of privacy by design, especially numbers 1, 2 and 3. Some of us value highly that aspect of Tildes.

    For example, because of user profiling. It would be totally against the principles of privacy by design, especially numbers 1, 2 and 3. Some of us value highly that aspect of Tildes.

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  4. Comment on Norway mosque attack suspect inspired by Christchurch and El Paso shootings in ~news

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    It seems a sensible approach, not only to not lead to the manifesto but also to not promote the platform.

    It seems a sensible approach, not only to not lead to the manifesto but also to not promote the platform.

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  5. Comment on Norway mosque attack suspect inspired by Christchurch and El Paso shootings in ~news

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    I honestly don't remember where I read it. Allegedly he uploaded to Instagram first, and I do remember 8chan owner saying the reuploader wasn't the same but was almost immediate, so it's like that...

    I honestly don't remember where I read it. Allegedly he uploaded to Instagram first, and I do remember 8chan owner saying the reuploader wasn't the same but was almost immediate, so it's like that it was him with a VPN.

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  6. Comment on An armed man who caused panic at a Walmart in Missouri says it was a 'social experiment' in ~news

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    You can bet your own head without fear on that, it's part of that trend of "triggering" people and showing how "under attack" they are by acting like lunatics and getting the consequences.

    You can bet your own head without fear on that, it's part of that trend of "triggering" people and showing how "under attack" they are by acting like lunatics and getting the consequences.

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  7. Comment on Norway mosque attack suspect inspired by Christchurch and El Paso shootings in ~news

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    My arguments are unaffected by wether it's rising or not, and probably stronger if it isn't rising. Well, good, because I'm not against that. I haven't been arguing against that for a second, have...

    My arguments are unaffected by wether it's rising or not, and probably stronger if it isn't rising.

    cited stats that support deplatforming

    Well, good, because I'm not against that. I haven't been arguing against that for a second, have said so explicitly several times, which are right here, in this same comment section.

    This is a good example of how saying that deplatforming isn't a solution even if it's necessary gets automatically misrepresented as being "against deplatforming", because obviously anyone who doesn't say deplatforming will save the universe from the Big Crunch is against deplatforming and a free speech absolutist. I'm not arguing against deplatforming, so maybe debates won't end if one keeps assuming what others think or don't.

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  8. Comment on Norway mosque attack suspect inspired by Christchurch and El Paso shootings in ~news

    chembliss
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    As this is not a paper but a comment, no specific ones. That was my general perception of the situation, as everyone seems to be freaking out about the "rise of the right". In case I'm wrong, let...

    As this is not a paper but a comment, no specific ones. That was my general perception of the situation, as everyone seems to be freaking out about the "rise of the right". In case I'm wrong, let me know it. Maybe I am, as I realize I've trusted the media on this one.

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  9. Comment on Norway mosque attack suspect inspired by Christchurch and El Paso shootings in ~news

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    It is not suited, as this is not about just "studying" the society as if we were out of it. That's a whole different topic anyways, we'll surely have more opportunities to discuss it.

    It is not suited, as this is not about just "studying" the society as if we were out of it. That's a whole different topic anyways, we'll surely have more opportunities to discuss it.

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  10. Comment on Norway mosque attack suspect inspired by Christchurch and El Paso shootings in ~news

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    I use analogies all the time, so no problem on that, I'm as guilty as you haha. And thanks for the discussion too! Sorry if I have been too vague or scarce at the end.

    I use analogies all the time, so no problem on that, I'm as guilty as you haha.

    And thanks for the discussion too! Sorry if I have been too vague or scarce at the end.

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  11. Comment on Norway mosque attack suspect inspired by Christchurch and El Paso shootings in ~news

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    Yes, I know. To be honest I shouldn't have get involved into this conversation now, I'm not in a good moment, but it seems I can't help it. And as that's a whole other discussion, I won't say much...

    You're being very vague.

    Yes, I know. To be honest I shouldn't have get involved into this conversation now, I'm not in a good moment, but it seems I can't help it. And as that's a whole other discussion, I won't say much about it, next time I bring it up, because I will, I'll be more specific.

    That's gonna be a big oof from me.

    Then wouldn't you agree that

    It doesn't seem to be failing, by the moment.

    ?
    Anyways, that's a different discussion as well.

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  12. Comment on Norway mosque attack suspect inspired by Christchurch and El Paso shootings in ~news

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    On the analogy, I probably choose a bad one, as it's become clear I don't know enough about it, and analogies only make communication easier when both parties understand them to be an adequate...

    On the analogy, I probably choose a bad one, as it's become clear I don't know enough about it, and analogies only make communication easier when both parties understand them to be an adequate representation of the main aspects discussed. So sorry about that, I'll think of a better one, and feel free to tell me if you don't feel it's a good one.

    you can see that it is indeed backfiring spectacularly.

    I hope, and I agree I probably have been influenced by the fear mongering of the media. Although I'd say that the views and ads are only half of the reason, the other half being political interests.

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  13. Comment on Norway mosque attack suspect inspired by Christchurch and El Paso shootings in ~news

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    I don't, either. I'm just worried that the media will be successful in pushing it as the solution, and even more because I don't think they have any real interest in stopping white supremacism,...

    I don't see how this is necessarily an either/or issue.

    I don't, either. I'm just worried that the media will be successful in pushing it as the solution, and even more because I don't think they have any real interest in stopping white supremacism, but in containing it. A lurking threat is an excellent political tool.

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  14. Comment on Norway mosque attack suspect inspired by Christchurch and El Paso shootings in ~news

    chembliss
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    No, I'm not looking (just) for sociology, as sociology has a limited scope that can't address the phenomenon as a whole. It probably can't be globally understood by a single person, and every time...

    No, I'm not looking (just) for sociology, as sociology has a limited scope that can't address the phenomenon as a whole. It probably can't be globally understood by a single person, and every time we come together to take in our hands the betterment of human society, we are addressing it.* Ultimately, the responsibility of stopping this madness lies in no other but each and every one of us. If I wasn't convinced of that I wouldn't be writing here, or anywhere.

    * I'm not trying to say sociology is useless, or that can't address specific problems. It can and it does, regardless of what I could say.

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  15. Comment on Norway mosque attack suspect inspired by Christchurch and El Paso shootings in ~news

    chembliss
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    Hm, I wouldn't say it's analogous, but to be fair that's partly a limitation of the analogy. But I don't think the fear that is fueling the spread of far right ideas is caused by far right forums...

    Hm, I wouldn't say it's analogous, but to be fair that's partly a limitation of the analogy. But I don't think the fear that is fueling the spread of far right ideas is caused by far right forums (or whatever similar), what those do is provide a simple explanation with simple solutions. That's why I agree they should be deplatformed, but as long as the fear is there and unaddressed, and its causes unknown and ignored, they will grow. And if it isn't the far right, there will be similar things, ultimately you need nothing besides anger and despair to decide to kill.

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  16. Comment on Norway mosque attack suspect inspired by Christchurch and El Paso shootings in ~news

    chembliss
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    I know. Yes, but no one would focus on triage when facing a pandemia. It would be done, yes, but wouldn't be the focus. Now, almost anywhere. I answered about that in one of the replies to my...

    just because someone suggests or supports deplatforming does not mean they are unaware of the root causes

    I know.

    You save as many people as you can by treating the easiest cases first

    Yes, but no one would focus on triage when facing a pandemia. It would be done, yes, but wouldn't be the focus.

    When/where are discussions on the root causes being silenced?

    Now, almost anywhere. I answered about that in one of the replies to my previous comments. I don't know if silenced has the right implications in English, maybe drowned would be better.

    It's a failing and ultimately self-defeating strategy

    It doesn't seem to be failing, by the moment. We'll see in the future, you may be right, because the truth is that the danger of the far right is being constantly overestimated, and we aren't "marching towards fascism".

    The vast majority of the Western world's population (even Americans) understand that censorship of certain abhorrent ideas is a necessary evil

    That works while the vast majority considers those ideas to be abhorrent. If that couldn't change, there would be no problem and those ideas would never spread. But if there is fertile grounds for those ideas already, censorship can strengthen them if done too much or done wrong.

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  17. Comment on Norway mosque attack suspect inspired by Christchurch and El Paso shootings in ~news

    chembliss
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    Yes, I have too, that's why I was saying it. That's what I'm talking about. Maybe gentle is not the word here, but you don't start hitting him on the face, and at least the "until he calms down"...

    Yes, I have too, that's why I was saying it.

    bear hug him, pinning his arms to his body and carry him away from the confrontation until he calmed down.

    That's what I'm talking about. Maybe gentle is not the word here, but you don't start hitting him on the face, and at least the "until he calms down" part I did it talking while holding him. In my experience, it's necessary to talk to him while you hold him if you want to avoid him fighting you instead.

    Maybe it's just my experience. It doesn't really matter, it just was an attempt of analogy of using force without fighting, and not relying solely on force to solve the situation. I could have talked about judo, but I have never practiced it.

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  18. Comment on Norway mosque attack suspect inspired by Christchurch and El Paso shootings in ~news

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    On deplatforming: that really depends on your definition of platform. I don't see any reason to limit it to the Internet: a newspaper, a pamphlet, a bench on a square and a cafeteria are platforms...

    On deplatforming: that really depends on your definition of platform. I don't see any reason to limit it to the Internet: a newspaper, a pamphlet, a bench on a square and a cafeteria are platforms too. I have discussed elsewhere the fact that an Internet oligopoly makes it similar to a State figure, just less accountable, predictable and coherent.

    And of course there's pushback. If there weren't pushback it would mean that there is not a social situation adequate for the spread of far right ideas, and deplatforming would be almost unnecessary.

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  19. Comment on Norway mosque attack suspect inspired by Christchurch and El Paso shootings in ~news

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    The roots? I don't know, and that's why we should discuss it. As far as I see, we have a working class which is being pushed more and more into uncertainty and worse living conditions. Seeing no...

    The roots? I don't know, and that's why we should discuss it. As far as I see, we have a working class which is being pushed more and more into uncertainty and worse living conditions. Seeing no future produces fear, despair and anger, anger which can be very easily turned against different people or people who are just slightly better off than you are. I understand how a white worker who is struggling to make ends meet can be easily turned against immigrants, or maybe against preachy college professors, politicians and news anchors that call him privileged and oppressor. The same goes not only the other way around, but in many different ways around.

    I could be wrong, and this is by no means a detailed explanation of what I think about it, which anyways wouldn't be a complete explanation at all. What is clear it's that our society, as a whole, globally, is facing serious problems at its very foundations. Either we discuss it and try understanding what's going on beyond "Russia", "the right", "the Internet" and other bogeymen, or we are going to keep getting trapped.

    How is it being silenced? By making any attempt to discuss it seem like an attempt to defend or somehow justify the far right, their actions or their alleged "right" to publish calls to murder. Here conversation is more thoughtful, so it's easier to discuss it. But it's a rare case, and even here one has to repeat every two sentences that one's not attempting to justify anything, or to oppose this or that measure. In my college I get called a "fascism apologist" for saying this stuff, and that's it pretty much.

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  20. Comment on Norway mosque attack suspect inspired by Christchurch and El Paso shootings in ~news

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    On a side note: have you ever been involved in stopping a drunk friend who's fighting someone? Yes, you have to be firm, attempt to physically block him and maybe even hit him. But what makes him...

    On a side note: have you ever been involved in stopping a drunk friend who's fighting someone? Yes, you have to be firm, attempt to physically block him and maybe even hit him. But what makes him really stop and not hit you back is that, even if you're physically blocking him, you are gentle, talking to him and reminding him he doesn't really want that. If you just hit him as hard as you can, or if you are not gentle, he will fight you and you will be forced to fight him as well.

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