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  1. Comment on File not found: A generation that grew up with Google is forcing professors to rethink their lesson plans in ~comp

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    I don't think this problem is quite as severe as the article says, but as someone who also did first year eng in 2017, I definitely wouldn't call the premise absurd. There are a lot of people our...

    I don't think this problem is quite as severe as the article says, but as someone who also did first year eng in 2017, I definitely wouldn't call the premise absurd. There are a lot of people our age who have never needed to interact with filesystems in any detail - from grade five, every public school computer I used (outside of an elective CS class) was a chromebook. Sure, google drive still has files and folders, but it's generally more abstracted to "these are my recently edited google docs". I've met people who aren't comfortable with filepaths or archives, and I'm sure that most of them just grew up on chromebooks and mobile phones.

    Not to say that this is gen Z's fault or anything - we just grew up during the period when companies were aggressively working to abstract away everything but apps and documents.

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  2. Comment on What's something that is, surprisingly, made with animal products? in ~enviro

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    My apologies for misunderstanding. The third argument I listed is a very common appeal to nature when people discuss veganism. Your third paragraph (which is critical of ethical veganism) is...

    My apologies for misunderstanding. The third argument I listed is a very common appeal to nature when people discuss veganism. Your third paragraph (which is critical of ethical veganism) is immediately followed by: "However much it might clash with modern ethos, animals have to kill to live." I interpreted that sentence as you presenting another perceived flaw in vegan argumentation.

    Thankfully, that was the least important response I wrote. I hope you can see my point of view about the first two.

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  3. Comment on What's something that is, surprisingly, made with animal products? in ~enviro

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    You pose a lot of interesting questions there, and I've spent a fair bit of time thinking about them in the past. I want to start off by saying that I have no hard feelings towards you or your...

    You pose a lot of interesting questions there, and I've spent a fair bit of time thinking about them in the past. I want to start off by saying that I have no hard feelings towards you or your post - I know that this is a sensitive topic, and feels very personal. I trust that you have good intentions, and don't mean to be hostile!

    These are the points I took away from your comment:

    1. Why do vegans treat plant / animal suffering as superior to the damage responses of plants?
    2. Ethical veganism is self contradictory, because the best way to stop suffering is to surrender your life.
    3. Predatory animals must kill to live, therefore veganism is unreasonable / unnatural.

    And here are my replies.

    1 - Why do vegans treat plant / animal suffering as superior to the damage responses of plants?
    I've heard this argument a lot of times before, and used to make it myself. Generally, I think that this question is a bit self defeating - would you rather watch someone cut down a tree, or drive a chainsaw into a puppy? We find it innately obvious that plant life is conscious at a far lower level than animal life, if it is conscious at all. Ultimately, this is a matter of evolutionary biology. Animals evolved pain responses and minds because we are mobile. If something hurts me, I feel pain because my body is convincing me that I need to get away from whatever is damaging me. Plants, however, are almost entirely stuck in place. There is no evolutionary benefit for a plant to be able to make plans, or to feel pain. A mind is energetically costly, and useless if nothing in your genetic line has ever been ambulatory.

    As a result, I personally find it silly to worry about the suffering that plants experience - their pain responses only need be robotic, and a mind isn't needed to ooze poison sap from a cut. However, some people surely disagree with me, there. Perhaps the Venus Flytrap has a mind of some sort. Luckily for veganism, a vegan diet actually kills far fewer plants than an animal based diet. When you feed an animal, almost all of the food energy they receive goes into sustaining their body. As a result, eating a cow is energetically much less efficient - one calorie of beef takes about twenty five calories of plant matter to produce. When we eat plants directly, we absorb their energy and nutrients more efficiently, and ultimately have to kill far fewer of them.

    2 - Ethical veganism is self contradictory, because the best way to stop suffering is to surrender your life.
    In our current world, a person must cause some suffering to stay alive. In your comment, you say that this implies "it's not [consistent with ethical veganism] to keep living if you can't do it without harming something".

    In a vacuum without other human beings, there is some sort of mathematical truth to that claim. One cannot cause suffering to other life forms if they aren't alive. However, in the real world, this doesn't hold true. Their loved ones would suffer from the loss, and an ethical movement built around the surrender of human life would cause a tremendous amount of anguish and depression. Of course, you'll have to weigh that hypothetical mental suffering against the physical suffering of whatever it is that you eat.

    Ultimately, my main disagreement with this point is one of practicality. Death might be the ultimate way to reduce our impact on suffering, but even if it is - do we seriously expect that people will surrender their lives so ants and lettuce can live? No, of course no sensible person would. A world without any life cannot have any suffering, but such a world is both undesirable and unattainable. What is attainable, though, is to eat a beyond burger, or tofu, or beans. We could easily treat animals far better. That middle ground - causing as little suffering as is practical and agreeable - is veganism, to me.

    3 - Predatory animals must kill to live, therefore veganism is unreasonable / unnatural.
    I'm basically going to regurgitate what @top said, for this one. Animals do a lot of things that are bad. They eat their young, they maul and torture prey (I had a cat that would catch mice, then smack them against the ground over and over until they died). Why should this impact us? We do not need meat to live. We voluntarily choose to breed, confine, and slaughter 50 billion chickens, 1.5 billion pigs, and 300 million cows every year for food. Some people consider what lions do to gazelles unethical. I think it's bad (the poor gazelles!), but the lions don't exactly have a choice in the matter.

    My apologies for how long this post got. I wanted to provide a thorough reply for each of your points, but it got a little lengthy! I hope that what I've said is useful, and my apologies if you feel I misrepresented any of your points.

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  4. Comment on What's something that is, surprisingly, made with animal products? in ~enviro

  5. Comment on What's something that is, surprisingly, made with animal products? in ~enviro

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    Yup, good point! A lot of people also go vegan for the environment, too.

    Yup, good point! A lot of people also go vegan for the environment, too.

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  6. Comment on What's something that is, surprisingly, made with animal products? in ~enviro

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    Veganism is just about reducing harm done to living beings where possible. It does not say that a human life is equal to that of a cow, or that plants do not have a rudimentary form of experience....

    Veganism is just about reducing harm done to living beings where possible. It does not say that a human life is equal to that of a cow, or that plants do not have a rudimentary form of experience. Of course, I sympathize with how it must seem personal when your spouse's life is thanks to an animal product. That's totally justified, and please rest assured that nobody reasonable wants to prevent the use of animal tissue if it is the only way to save human lives.

    However, we use animal products very gratuitously in our society, and veganism concerns itself with reducing the harm that does. If we can make insulin with yeast in a lab, we shouldn't take animal pancreases for it. If we can live happy, healthy lives eating only plants, we should not eat meat. Some of these things are inconvenient, but if inconvenience can erase suffering, shouldn't we be inconvenienced?

    Also - I see the argument about plant qualia a fair bit, and understandably so. It would be hypocritical to eat plants if they experience things the same way animals do. If plants do experience pain, though, we should kill as few of them as possible. Considering that 77% of our crops* are fed to animals, and animals only provide 18% of our calories, the best way to reduce overall plant and animal harm is to eat plants directly, without wasting their calories on animal metabolisms.

    I hope I haven't come off as rude - I once had the same objections you do, but was eventually convinced. I feel like I ought to do my part and share my viewpoints on the issue when I can. :)

    *77% of our agricultural land - of course land area and number of crops on that land are not mandatorily related, but I assume that we grow crops with similar land efficiency for human food and animal food.

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  7. Comment on Oildrop - A self-auditable userscript manager in ~comp

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    Yup! The GitHub readme contains a section on how to do exactly that, and it's actually my recommended method of installation. I wanted to put in on the Firefox add on store for the sake of...

    Yup! The GitHub readme contains a section on how to do exactly that, and it's actually my recommended method of installation. I wanted to put in on the Firefox add on store for the sake of convenience.

    I really wish there was a better compromise between automatic updates and security. It would be awesome if the Firefox store would show you diffs on extension code, because I imagine most updates aren't more than a hundred lines of tweaking.

    Thanks for checking the project out - it means a lot. :)

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  8. Comment on Oildrop - A self-auditable userscript manager in ~comp

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    This is a project that I've been working really hard on for a while, and it's the first time I'm properly releasing something into the wild. I'm still figuring out how to publish it, but I wanted...

    This is a project that I've been working really hard on for a while, and it's the first time I'm properly releasing something into the wild. I'm still figuring out how to publish it, but I wanted to start by sharing it on Tildes before offering myself as fodder to less polite forums.

    I'd love to hear feedback, if you have any! I actually made a post where I asked for advice on this project, and if you were involved in that, you might notice that Oildrop isn't drop-in compatible with TamperMonkey/GreaseMonkey scripts. I'm still thinking about adding that feature, perhaps in a separate branch, but have been hesitant to because it'll likely increase the codebase size a lot.

    I hope some of you like it!

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  9. Comment on What features do you want to see in a userscript manager? in ~comp

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    Good to know! I'll probably just stick with wildcards, then, as it'll keep me from having to write more boilerplate.

    Good to know! I'll probably just stick with wildcards, then, as it'll keep me from having to write more boilerplate.

  10. Comment on What features do you want to see in a userscript manager? in ~comp

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    Good question! Unfortunately, it's not such an easy change. Firefox has this nonstandard (or at least it isn't implemented anywhere else) userscript API that webExtensions can use - By using it,...

    Good question! Unfortunately, it's not such an easy change. Firefox has this nonstandard (or at least it isn't implemented anywhere else) userscript API that webExtensions can use - By using it, I've managed to keep my code from actually touching pattern matching, creating <script> tags, or injecting anything. That has the benefit of keeping things small and simple, but it also means I can't mess around with the guts. That API only supports wildcards, so I'd have to fully abandon it and write my own injector if I wanted regex support.

  11. Comment on What features do you want to see in a userscript manager? in ~comp

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    Thank you! Bauke also seemed to like the idea of detecting script files, so it seems that's a common preference. I already have toggling each script implemented, as well - I think that's really...

    Thank you!

    Bauke also seemed to like the idea of detecting script files, so it seems that's a common preference. I already have toggling each script implemented, as well - I think that's really important, too. Thanks for your opinions regarding cloud sync and syntax highlighting!

    Regarding regex in URL matching - The way things are currently implemented, url matching works with wildcards, but not regex specifically - so, here are some valid identifiers for scripts:

    https://*.google.com/images/*
    <all_urls>

    However, adding actual regex support would require a lot of extra code, so I was hoping people wouldn't mind losing it. Is the wildcard support enough for your use cases? If not, could you give me an example of what kinds of domains you'd use a regex for?

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  12. Comment on Do any of you use productivity software (kanbans, scrum, etc)? How do you stay productive and organized? in ~talk

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    Not OP, but I've been looking for something like TickTick for a long time - thanks for the reccomendation!

    Not OP, but I've been looking for something like TickTick for a long time - thanks for the reccomendation!

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  13. Comment on What features do you want to see in a userscript manager? in ~comp

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    Oh, interesting - I don't think I want automatic updates enabled (I imagine that's a very easy vector for malware), but I think having a manual update option is smart. The .user.js feature is...

    Oh, interesting - I don't think I want automatic updates enabled (I imagine that's a very easy vector for malware), but I think having a manual update option is smart.

    The .user.js feature is handy, I'll definitely look into it.

    I'm using the Firefox UserScript API to handle most of the grunt work, and luckily that already supports wildcard URL matching. It's really reduced the amount of code I had to write, but it's also a bit limiting.

    Thanks so much for the thoughtful reply! I'll keep all of that in mind.

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  14. Comment on What features do you want to see in a userscript manager? in ~comp

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    So far I'm only supporting modern Firefox - it has a userscript API that helps keep the project tiny. I'm not thrilled about that, because it doesn't even seem like chrome or opera are supporting...

    So far I'm only supporting modern Firefox - it has a userscript API that helps keep the project tiny. I'm not thrilled about that, because it doesn't even seem like chrome or opera are supporting that part of the webextensions API. I suppose one benefit of the small codebase is that porting it probably wouldn't take too long.

    I'm still mulling over how compatible my plugin will be with Greasemonkey et al - Obviously it would be nice to use the existing library of userscripts, but ensuring 100% compatibility would probably triple the project's size. I think I'll probably offer some middle ground - fragmentation is a pain.

    Thanks for sharing your thoughts, though! Those are both important issues I hadn't considered much. I doubt the overlap between people who use chrome and people who want to read browser extension source code is pretty small, so I might want to lean in to the niche privacy aware/FOSS browser community here.

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  15. What features do you want to see in a userscript manager?

    I'm currently developing a minimal userscript manager who's main goal is to be fully auditable by any user in only ten minutes or so - my prototype uses less than 300 lines of javascript, and I'm...

    I'm currently developing a minimal userscript manager who's main goal is to be fully auditable by any user in only ten minutes or so - my prototype uses less than 300 lines of javascript, and I'm trying to keep it that way.

    To get the codebase this small, however, I have to be very picky with what features I implement - most notably, the code editor has to be very barebones. Are there any features that I'd be shooting myself in the foot by not including?

    For example:

    • syntax highlighting
    • cloud sync
    • regex url matching
    • fullscreen editor (currently, it's just a browser popup - the intention is that you write code elsewhere and paste it in)

    Any feedback is greatly appreciated!

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  16. Comment on Eleven days in ~talk

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    Ooh, what keyboard?

    Ooh, what keyboard?

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  17. Comment on Librem 5 mass production phone has begun shipping in ~tech

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    I'm excited to see how far they've come with the speed of this device. I saw some previews earlier showing it running Firefox, and I'll admit my optimism was.. well, diminished, when they showed...

    I'm excited to see how far they've come with the speed of this device. I saw some previews earlier showing it running Firefox, and I'll admit my optimism was.. well, diminished, when they showed how laggy the scrolling was. It also seems that way for system elements too, which I had hoped would be more responsive.

    I still love the idea, and I'm a big supporter of the aims of the project. But I hope they have something in the works to fix those problems so that this has a chance to take off.

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  18. Comment on Positive Youtube channels? in ~hobbies

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    Sebastian Lague makes fantastic content about programming (more aimed at programmers than beginners) - it's full of really interesting ideas (lots of work with GPU shaders), beautiful simulations,...

    Sebastian Lague makes fantastic content about programming (more aimed at programmers than beginners) - it's full of really interesting ideas (lots of work with GPU shaders), beautiful simulations, and a very cute kitty cat.

    I also really enjoy Daily Dose of Internet - it's just a compilation of cute videos and uplifting stuff. It sounds a little trite from that explanation, but the person who curates the channel seems wonderful and has stated that his goal is to make the internet a happier place. It's always pretty relaxing, even if it's not educational.

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  19. Comment on Programming Languages that are Both Interpretable and Compilable? in ~comp

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    Very cool! That's something I definitely hadn't heard about.

    Very cool! That's something I definitely hadn't heard about.