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Greta Thunberg detained at German coal protest

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  1. cfabbro
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    Be sure to watch the video in this article. I love how happy Greta looks while the police are carrying her. And another amusing video from the same protests, for those who haven't seen it yet:...

    Be sure to watch the video in this article. I love how happy Greta looks while the police are carrying her. And another amusing video from the same protests, for those who haven't seen it yet:
    ‘Wizard’ taunts German police stuck in the mud at coal mine protest

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  2. elcuello
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    Found this gif on r/conspiracy mind you but it's kinda interesting to see how the picture came to be.

    Found this gif on r/conspiracy mind you but it's kinda interesting to see how the picture came to be.

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    skybrian
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    So, I guess German power companies will buy coal somewhere else? What's the background behind this dispute?

    So, I guess German power companies will buy coal somewhere else? What's the background behind this dispute?

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    1. [4]
      cfabbro
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      From the article: And from the older article linked to in it: p.s. Besides the issues with the lignite itself, Google images search "Garzweiler" to see photos showing the size and scale of the...

      From the article:

      Lignite is the dirtiest form of coal, and the area around Lützerath yields 25 million tonnes of it each year.

      The village, owned by energy company RWE after residents abandoned it, is expected to be the final one demolished for the lignite mine. RWE has said the coal under the village is needed as early as this winter.

      And from the older article linked to in it:

      The land around and under Lützerath is rich in lignite - the dirtiest form of coal. The mine, a bleak and dull brown man-made canyon which stretches over 35 square kilometres, yields 25 million tonnes of the stuff every year.

      The energy company RWE, which operates the mine, now owns the village. The residents are all gone, their houses abandoned. Only the protesters remain, squatting in the old brick buildings, watching the mine expand towards them.

      The battle for Lützerath has been raging for a long time. But Russia's war on Ukraine has given it a greater significance, transforming it into a national symbol of the struggle within German politics and society; how does a country which relied so heavily on Russian gas, now balance its need for energy with its ambitions on climate change?

      Its government, a three-way coalition which includes Germany's Green Party, has already had to, as the Germans would say, swallow some toads. Ministers who came to power promising to end reliance on coal have found themselves ordering a number of old coal fired power stations back online or delaying plans to decommission others (including two lignite units run by RWE) to keep the country in electricity while other sources are found.

      But Lützerath is likely to be the last German village lost to a coal mine.

      The government has pledged to bring forward its planned phase-out of coal to 2030 in North Rhine-Westphalia, the state in which Garzweiler lies (the national target is 2038).

      And RWE and the regional government have agreed to limit the extension of the mine; plans to demolish and excavate five other villages have been scrapped.

      But RWE, which states it's investing heavily in energy transition technologies both in the region and around the world, claims that, under the current circumstances, Germany needs the lignite under Lützerath.

      The activists are determined to stop them getting to it.

      "If they dig for this coal, they're taking down climate goals, they're throwing the Paris agreement in the bin," says protester Dina Hamid. RWE insists that's not the case.

      "People are dying now from the climate crisis," she adds.

      "If we want to save lives, if we don't want this to keep happening, we need to save every bit of coal, every bit of fossil fuel in the ground."

      Dina emphasises that hers will be a peaceful protest although she admits that there are differing views in the camp as to how far their resistance should go.

      As we speak, more supporters arrive, bearing backpacks, to join the activists, some of whom have lived on the site for more than a year. Police officers, some in riot gear, stand close by, wary, as some of the protesters link arms and form a line just a few metres away from the giant digger bearing down on the village.

      It's a striking sight; the officers and the activists preparing for a last stand, all dwarfed by the great mechanical teeth working away at the earth in front of them.

      p.s. Besides the issues with the lignite itself, Google images search "Garzweiler" to see photos showing the size and scale of the surface strip mine, and the environmental destruction that's causing.

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      1. [2]
        vektor
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        Notably, while we did have to "swallow some toads" (love that they translated that verbatim!), a point of contention is not mentioned in your excerpt (you'll have to forgive me for not reading the...

        Notably, while we did have to "swallow some toads" (love that they translated that verbatim!), a point of contention is not mentioned in your excerpt (you'll have to forgive me for not reading the entire article in detail, I've been mostly following german sources on this which are likely more comprehensive):

        This lignite is, according to multiple expert assessments, not necessary to keep the grid stable. I would 100% support RWE digging this vile stuff up, if it was absolutely necessary in order to avoid being Putin's bitch. But it isn't. So I don't.

        (Opinion / more loose assessment:) The reason we're digging it up under our current government is, to my understanding, a combination of institutional inertia (the old government issued the permits, and revoking them would expose the state to liability) and the close ties between the coal mining business and the regional branch of the Social Democrat Party - coal mining being one of the few remaining vestiges of the previous industrial hub that is the Ruhr area. (If you're across the atlantic, think Ruhr = Detroit) The SPD of course previously being the party of said industrial laborers, regularly (and rightfully, imo) advancing concerns about the fate of affected employees.

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        1. cfabbro
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          Once again, thanks for sharing your perspective on the issue as our resident German here on Tildes. :)

          Once again, thanks for sharing your perspective on the issue as our resident German here on Tildes. :)

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      2. skybrian
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        Thanks. Now I remember reading a good photo-essay about this place, but I can't find it, so the Google image search will have to do.

        Thanks. Now I remember reading a good photo-essay about this place, but I can't find it, so the Google image search will have to do.

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