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Nation's largest urban battery is being built in Daly City, California

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  1. skybrian
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    Developer Arevon has begun building a 1-gigawatt-hour storage project in Daly City, near the Cow Palace arena, where it will serve up clean energy at night.

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    Developer Arevon has begun construction of the Cormorant Energy Storage Project, which will occupy an 11-acre vacant lot just southwest of the Cow Palace in Daly City. The battery facility will be large by industry standards, with 250 megawatts of Tesla Megapack containers, capable of discharging for four hours straight, for 1 gigawatt-hour of total stored energy. Bigger batteries have been built, but when Cormorant comes online in about a year, it will be poised to be the country’s largest battery nestled within a major urban area.

    Arevon has contracted the battery for 15 years of use by MCE, one of California’s biggest community choice aggregators — entities that purchase electricity on behalf of local residents as an alternative to Wall Street–owned for-profit utilities. The state requires MCE to buy grid capacity commensurate with its members’ usage, and the Cormorant project will fulfill 10% of this annual requirement, known as resource adequacy in California bureaucratese.

    MCE has become a major force in the greater Bay Area: It now serves all of Marin and Napa counties, most of Contra Costa, and half of Solano. The aggregator can contract for power plants across California, but it looks for sites within or near its service territory when possible, said Jenna Tenney, MCE’s director of communications and community engagement.

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    The Cormorant battery provides something new: a dense source of on-demand power that can slip into the urban fabric without any local air pollution, and which absorbs the far-off solar generation at midday to discharge later at night. Arevon CEO Justin Johnson estimated that the battery, fitting on the site of a former drive-in movie theater, could cover the electricity needs of some 321,000 homes for four hours straight.

    “It couldn’t keep the whole city going, but it certainly, without a doubt, increases the reliability of the grid in that area in a substantial way,” he said.

    Arevon didn’t jump to the highest echelon of energy storage development from nothing. The firm has invested $11 billion in projects and owns 6 gigawatts of solar and battery installations operating across 18 states.

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    The company launched in 2021 as a spinout of Capital Dynamics, a private equity fund that amassed an early portfolio of energy storage assets. Arevon is owned by the California State Teachers’ Retirement Fund, Dutch pension fund APG, and the Abu Dhabi Investment Authority. Those firms invest for steady, long-term growth, and their patience lends itself to Arevon building and owning batteries for the long haul, instead of building to flip to other buyers.

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    Arevon focused on the Daly City location because electricity price volatility tends to be highest in proximity to major consumption, Johnson said. Places like that — whether metro areas or large industrial hubs — see the greatest swings from peak to off-peak hours, and having battery facilities to arbitrage between those times should push prices down in the long run. But building within a city comes with obvious trade-offs.

    “Siting any infrastructure, whether you’re putting in a Walmart or upgrading an intersection or doing anything in a high-density area, is tough … especially so for power plants or facilities like this,” he noted.

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    Such projects ​“reduce your lifespan a little bit” from the stress, Johnson said, but once built, the intrinsic difficulty becomes a sort of strategic moat. If a competitor wanted to open up next door to Cow Palace, well, they probably couldn’t find a viable space.

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    Arevon’s choice of battery, Tesla’s Megapack 2 XL, addressed the safety question. The containerized storage product is filled with the lithium-ferrous phosphate cells, a battery chemistry known to be significantly less fire-prone than earlier lithium-ion varieties. The older Moss Landing facility packed a huge amount of batteries into a single legacy structure, where they became fuel for an immense conflagration. The Megapack containers, in contrast, will be spread out across the site in a design that will prevent a fire from spreading beyond a single metal box. If one unit ever did catch fire, it would damage only a fraction of 1 percent of the plant’s capacity.

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    rich_27
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    I really don't see the benefit of "on-site" power storage. The only thing the article said to justify the location being a good thing was The power isn't being generated in the urban centre, so it...

    I really don't see the benefit of "on-site" power storage. The only thing the article said to justify the location being a good thing was

    but those plants need to ship their power over many miles of transmission lines to reach the cities where it gets consumed.

    The power isn't being generated in the urban centre, so it needs to be shipped over many miles of transmission lines whether that's pre- or post- power storage, and a pumped hydroelectric power station seems like a far safer, more efficient, and ecologically friendly (materials for batteries are generally way more ecologically unfriendly to produce) way of providing power storage and grid balancing. The biggest pumped hydroelectric plants are in the order of 10s of GWh of storage, so seem like a far better idea to me than Tesla Megapacks - to me this had the vibe of a fluff piece justifying their usage, but maybe that's not how it comes across to someone without an electric engineering background!

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    1. papasquat
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      Pumped hydroelectric needs a very specific terrain layout to work. There are very, very few places where its viable. There are entire regions of the country where it's not feasible because of a...

      Pumped hydroelectric needs a very specific terrain layout to work. There are very, very few places where its viable. There are entire regions of the country where it's not feasible because of a lack of elevation or development patterns or geology.

      In contrast, you can put battery storage literally anywhere you have space. You can also continually scale its energy and power capacity over time as demand grows by just adding more units.

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    2. [6]
      skybrian
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      I don't think this sort of comparison can be made without doing detailed calculations. For example, there are limits on how much energy power lines can transmit, so time of day might matter? Some...

      I don't think this sort of comparison can be made without doing detailed calculations. For example, there are limits on how much energy power lines can transmit, so time of day might matter?

      Some power is generated locally (for example, residential solar), so it seems like having some local storage might be useful?

      Pumped storage is good where available but geographically, it's pretty limited.

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      1. rich_27
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        The residential solar local generation is a good point I hadn't considered!

        The residential solar local generation is a good point I hadn't considered!

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        Asinine
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        Yeah, Daly City isn't going to have that. Just a bit of a ramble on the topic: I feel that many people don't understand the ebb and flow of power usage. When power is used, it must be generated...

        Pumped storage is good where available but geographically, it's pretty limited.

        Yeah, Daly City isn't going to have that.

        Just a bit of a ramble on the topic:
        I feel that many people don't understand the ebb and flow of power usage. When power is used, it must be generated immediately or otherwise have been stored, such as in a battery bank. Overnights typically less power is used, but shutting off generation isn't always feasible - especially if hydro or nuclear power is used (I know nuke's aren't a thing in CA anymore, but just stating in general). Power storage is a great thing, but I believe that we still have a long way to go before we roll out battery options like this. Unfortunately, that also means petroleum-based fuels are necessary to cover that production.

        Batteries outright scare and bother me: fires are nigh eternal when they occur, and the gaining materials necessary is worse (in my opinion) than the outcomes of using natural gas or other "dirty" forms. Additionally, with the increase of "renewable" fuel sources (which have their own issues inherent in the materials required/used for producing very inefficient-but-usable power), you can't always turn the sun or wind off, so the power has to go somewhere...

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        1. GoatOnPony
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          Why do you think we have a long way to go before we roll out grid scale battery? I ask since we're already in the midst of that transition, the US added 19 GWh of battery storage last year and the...

          Why do you think we have a long way to go before we roll out grid scale battery? I ask since we're already in the midst of that transition, the US added 19 GWh of battery storage last year and the pace is only growing. Battery + solar seems to be the cheapest and cleanest way to transition the energy system over and it's only going to get cheaper and safer.

          I'm not sure I follow all the bits of the later portion of your comment, but battery fires are much less frequent and probably significantly better than either of the ongoing air pollution, CO2 emissions, or environmental catastrophes caused by fracking, oil spills, pipelines, massive human risks during transit, etc. Oil and methane (I dislike the term 'natural gas') extraction and consumption have had world changing impacts, so I'm firmly in the camp that solar and batteries are necessary and better than the status quo.

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          MimicSquid
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          California does still have a nuclear plant. While the Diablo Canyon Nuclear Power Plant was slated to be closed by 2022, in the face of growing interest in sustainable power and a comparative...

          California does still have a nuclear plant. While the Diablo Canyon Nuclear Power Plant was slated to be closed by 2022, in the face of growing interest in sustainable power and a comparative fading of the anxieties regarding nuclear power it got an extension to 2030 and could well get additional extensions.

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          1. Asinine
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            I hadn't realized Diablo Canyon has stayed open; interesting how the state is trying to unshoot its foot sometimes haha. I work in generation as well and we got a bump up in the state until 2030...

            I hadn't realized Diablo Canyon has stayed open; interesting how the state is trying to unshoot its foot sometimes haha.

            I work in generation as well and we got a bump up in the state until 2030 for the same reason... we also own [I think] four peakers around the Sacramento area that are literally diesel engines with zero emission restrictions.

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