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A lawyer set himself on fire to protest climate change. Did anyone care?

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  1. [7]
    Akir (edited ) Link
    I really hate the US news media factory. Someone can literally set themselves on fire in protest and that story will be buried under a mountain of political news fluff. This is literally the first...

    I really hate the US news media factory. Someone can literally set themselves on fire in protest and that story will be buried under a mountain of political news fluff. This is literally the first time I have heard of this story, a full month after it happened.

    Edit: after reading a little more, I found out this happened last year, so I could have simply forgotten about it.

    14 votes
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      vakieh Link Parent
      Why on earth should someone setting themselves on fire be news? They were mentally ill, should we blast people jumping off buildings on the news?

      Why on earth should someone setting themselves on fire be news? They were mentally ill, should we blast people jumping off buildings on the news?

      1 vote
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        Akir Link Parent
        Where on Earth did you read that he was mentally ill? Regardless, to dismiss him as mentally ill is to completely disregard the intentions behind his actions, which I find deplorable.

        Where on Earth did you read that he was mentally ill?

        Regardless, to dismiss him as mentally ill is to completely disregard the intentions behind his actions, which I find deplorable.

        11 votes
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          vakieh Link Parent
          The part where he committed suicide was my biggest clue

          The part where he committed suicide was my biggest clue

          1 vote
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            alyaza Link Parent
            there's a philosophy tube video touching on this exact subject of whether killing yourself is inherently a symptom of being mentally unwell or if people of a sound mind can rationally decide to...

            there's a philosophy tube video touching on this exact subject of whether killing yourself is inherently a symptom of being mentally unwell or if people of a sound mind can rationally decide to choose not to live--and honestly, you'd be hard pressed in my view to prove the absolute statement that all people who kill themselves are indeed genuinely mentally unwell, given some of the scenarios we have available where people have done so (terminal illness, political repression, threats of violence against their family, etc). i think we probably can say most people who kill themselves are, but i genuinely doubt that you can for all, especially with those who kill themselves for political reasons.

            11 votes
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              1. CALICO Link Parent
                Self-Immolation as a form of protest also has some notable historical examples, which can be seen as the most extreme form of non-violent protest (as in, violence only upon yourself) one could...

                Self-Immolation as a form of protest also has some notable historical examples, which can be seen as the most extreme form of non-violent protest (as in, violence only upon yourself) one could possibly engage in.

                6 votes
      2. alphamule Link Parent
        Thích Quảng Đức's self-immolation is still an iconic image of Vietnam War protest fifty-six years later.

        Thích Quảng Đức's self-immolation is still an iconic image of Vietnam War protest fifty-six years later.

        2 votes
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    nsz Link
    I don't see a modern news source publishing images of him burning like some of the previous cases mentioned in the article. Maybe it's something to do with the difference between seeing a...

    The muted response was probably, in part, an understandable reluctance to glorify suicide.

    I don't see a modern news source publishing images of him burning like some of the previous cases mentioned in the article. Maybe it's something to do with the difference between seeing a westerner vs someone from a faraway place and culture. The Burning Monk [nfw] is on the Times 'Most Influential Images of All Time', but something like this, it's too close to home, idk. Maybe it's too shocking to show, and you get questions about his metal health instead. Maybe it's just the time we live in, a different world and sensibilities to 40-50 years ago.

    7 votes
    1. 9000 Link Parent
      My understanding is that Norman Morrison was a big deal at the time, and he was an American.

      Maybe it's something to do with the difference between seeing a westerner vs someone from a faraway place and culture.

      My understanding is that Norman Morrison was a big deal at the time, and he was an American.

      4 votes
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    Diet_Coke Link
    Self immolation is a long-documented form of protest. It has literally started wars - when Thích Quảng Đức immolated himself in Vietnam it caused a chain of events leading to the Vietnam war. When...

    Self immolation is a long-documented form of protest. It has literally started wars - when Thích Quảng Đức immolated himself in Vietnam it caused a chain of events leading to the Vietnam war. When a street merchant immolated himself in Tunisia it sparked the Arab spring. It's no surprise to me that US media won't touch these stories.

    6 votes