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    ali
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    I want to add something here: The forest was not a natural, wild forest- these trees were planted there to be roded in the future, it was planted for the paper pretty much. And by german law, the...
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    I want to add something here: The forest was not a natural, wild forest- these trees were planted there to be roded in the future, it was planted for the paper pretty much. And by german law, the trees that are cut down are also going to be replanted. The protest against cutting down the forest was considered by many (also of the green party) to be blind actionism. We have a problem in Germany with NIMBYs shutting down every bit of progress in general. You will be able to see that this 'forest' is pretty much only planted to be cut down if you look at photos of it. here

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    1. vektor
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      Yeah, the satellite image asoftbird posted shows as much. If you see really homogenous conifer forest with grid roads, it's probably not important environmentally.

      Yeah, the satellite image asoftbird posted shows as much. If you see really homogenous conifer forest with grid roads, it's probably not important environmentally.

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    Death
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    I really hate that this is even an argument, not because I don't understand the reasoning behind it but because it so clearly shows that, if push comes to shove, these parties are willing to...

    Lawmakers from Germany’s pro-business Christian Democrat and Free Democrat parties had warned that the legal battle waged against the Gigafactory would inflict serious damage on Germany’s image as a place to do business.

    I really hate that this is even an argument, not because I don't understand the reasoning behind it but because it so clearly shows that, if push comes to shove, these parties are willing to exchange environmental protection for possible economic gain and expect everyone else to be as well. It's another nail in the coffin of the perception that they can be compromised with on these questions.

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      vektor
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      Without context on those statements it's hard to judge whether those lawmakers weigh the risks. Looking at it, I agree with them on the outcome - blind NIMBY actionism isn't good for our...

      Without context on those statements it's hard to judge whether those lawmakers weigh the risks. Looking at it, I agree with them on the outcome - blind NIMBY actionism isn't good for our reputation as a business-friendly country. I'm just not sure whether they would come to a different conclusion if the environmentalists' case was more solid. Their evaluation is correct, I just fear they draw the line way later than I would. Would like to see how they see the resistance against the clearing of Hambacher Forst to make space for open-pit lignite (dirtiest coal you can find 'round here) mining. If those same politicians say that those protests make us appear anti-business.... yeeeeah.

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      1. Death
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        That's a very good point and I did not have that additional context, would have been good if the article included it as the way it is framed now is very different.

        That's a very good point and I did not have that additional context, would have been good if the article included it as the way it is framed now is very different.

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  3. stephen
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    Environmental sustainability accomplished! Big back pats for uncle Elon!

    Environmental sustainability accomplished! Big back pats for uncle Elon!

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