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US District Court Judge dismisses Hans Niemann's $100 million lawsuit against Magnus Carlsen, among others, in chess cheating scandal

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Tags: norway, usa, chess, legal, lawsuits, defamation, grandmasters, hans niemann, magnus carlsen, hikaru nakamura, chess dot com, cheating, author.ben morse, source.cnn
https://edition.cnn.com/2023/06/28/sport/judge-dismisses-niemann-lawsuit-carlsen-chess-spt-intl/index.html

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Ben Morse
Published
Jun 28 2023

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  1. de_fa
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    Good. Saying "I think he may be cheating" is not the same as saying "he's cheating", it was not a direct accusation and it was fair to assume so given his sketchy postgame interviews and his...

    Good.
    Saying "I think he may be cheating" is not the same as saying "he's cheating", it was not a direct accusation and it was fair to assume so given his sketchy postgame interviews and his online track record. Niemann could have handled this so much better and even come out on top of the situation hadn't he let his edgy internet persona spill into the real world.

    8 votes
  2. [4]
    CptBluebear
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    Hahaha, I truly wonder if this is something Carlsen did. He can be a bit overboard sometimes. All in all, the article reads like there's a lot of animosity that spiralled out of control....

    In his second amendment, Niemann alleged that Carlsen paid a friend $328 (€300) to shout “Cheater Hans” from the stands at the closing ceremony of a tournament.

    Hahaha, I truly wonder if this is something Carlsen did. He can be a bit overboard sometimes.

    All in all, the article reads like there's a lot of animosity that spiralled out of control. Considering the stats of Hans it may not be outside the realm of possibility that he was indeed cheating.. at least online.

    6 votes
    1. [2]
      Dystopia
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      One of the main reasons people aren't willing to give him the benefit of the doubt is that he's already admitted to cheating online himself some years ago. He was just a kid then IIRC since he is...

      One of the main reasons people aren't willing to give him the benefit of the doubt is that he's already admitted to cheating online himself some years ago. He was just a kid then IIRC since he is still so young, but even if he never even thought about cheating after that, the track record is already tarnished.

      5 votes
      1. de_fa
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        if i recall correctly he only admitted of cheating in a couple of games, when in reality chess.com anticheat software detected that he cheated on hundreds of games instead during covid.

        if i recall correctly he only admitted of cheating in a couple of games, when in reality chess.com anticheat software detected that he cheated on hundreds of games instead during covid.

        9 votes
    2. neio
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      He has definitely cheated online. But as far as I'm aware there is zero evidence that he has cheated in real life.

      He has definitely cheated online. But as far as I'm aware there is zero evidence that he has cheated in real life.

      1 vote
  3. TallUntidyGothGF
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    Quite unsurprising - given the wildness of the accusations in the filing and seeming lack of limitation and configuration of scope towards what he might actually feasibly prove in court, it seemed...

    Quite unsurprising - given the wildness of the accusations in the filing and seeming lack of limitation and configuration of scope towards what he might actually feasibly prove in court, it seemed to me that (a bit ironically i suppose) he was primarily attempting to use the filing's content and the act of filing it as a device to publicly slate Carlsen's reputation. This too seems to have backfired, in my opinion.

    3 votes