I think it would have been nice to compare it to the pre Next Gen patch (1.23 to 4.0.0 I think) which they pushed in December 2022 (You can find them by searching with the before:[year], I found...
I think it would have been nice to compare it to the pre Next Gen patch (1.23 to 4.0.0 I think) which they pushed in December 2022 (You can find them by searching with the before:[year], I found one here)
Because I distinctly remember playing the whole game near launch with my GTX 980 with correct FPS and when I tried the Next Gen version with my 3080 I was kinda shocked that I was struggling to run the game, with a mean of ~40 fps I think without Ray Tracing.
I wasn't tempted to do a playthrough so I didn't try many configuration of settings, but I was taken aback by the lackluster performance for not a worthwhile jump in graphic fidelity..
So this comparison putting this patch in good light is really because the state the game was in at the latest version of the non-remaster version
I tried the OG version on my GTX 750 and while the computational part was able to achieve 30+fps it struggled on that 1GB RAM. I'd say 750 Ti would be able to run the game at some playable...
I tried the OG version on my GTX 750 and while the computational part was able to achieve 30+fps it struggled on that 1GB RAM. I'd say 750 Ti would be able to run the game at some playable capacity. 980 would run the game great!
I never tried Next Gen, as I don't have PC for it at the moment. And I picked old version when playing on Steam Deck, as on its display the extra graphics of Next Gen isn't worth the power budget. I could crank the OG graphics much higher and still run Steam Deck on lower TDP and I think I got nicer looking game than low graphics Next Gen.
When you say "I picked old version when playing on Steam Deck, as on its display the extra graphics of Next Gen isn't worth the power budget", what do you mean ? You can play the 1.35.0 version...
When you say "I picked old version when playing on Steam Deck, as on its display the extra graphics of Next Gen isn't worth the power budget", what do you mean ?
You can play the 1.35.0 version (last one before the Next-Gen package in 2022) ?
From my understanding you can't downgrade a Steam game without going through hoops that are not available on all games, and especially difficult on the steam deck.
Yep, you can with Witcher 3 (and some other games, definitely not all though). Go into games' "Properties" and then select "Version" and there you just pick which one you want installed. There is...
Yep, you can with Witcher 3 (and some other games, definitely not all though). Go into games' "Properties" and then select "Version" and there you just pick which one you want installed. There is currently classic, next-gen and default (remastered) for Witcher 3.
This is very nice of CD Projekt to leave this option available. So indeed it must be quite better for the SteamDeck. Another reminder of the sacrifices the AAA of today demands from our machines...
This is very nice of CD Projekt to leave this option available.
So indeed it must be quite better for the SteamDeck.
Another reminder of the sacrifices the AAA of today demands from our machines to have a bit nicer graphic envelope compared to 10 years ago.
Yeah, you don't need to sell the game three times when you can do it like that and be nice to players (I'm looking at all of you, Bethesda, Rockstar, Ubisoft and 2K!). The classic version is...
Yeah, you don't need to sell the game three times when you can do it like that and be nice to players (I'm looking at all of you, Bethesda, Rockstar, Ubisoft and 2K!).
The classic version is perfect for Steam Deck. The resolution doesn't need next-gen or even remastered, the classic looks great on it and doesn't need that much power.
And Witcher 3 didn't need next-gen, nor remaster in my opinion. It is great we got them, don't get me wrong! But graphics are not what this particular game is about. Even classic version looks great to tell the story.
I know I've seen this "version" thing on some other games - ie. there is VR version of American/European Truck Simulator hidden there.
Would have been curious to see how it performs on older hardware. That said, Ray Tracing looks good, but once I'm playing the game, I'd be unlikely to actually notice that path tracing "looks...
Would have been curious to see how it performs on older hardware. That said, Ray Tracing looks good, but once I'm playing the game, I'd be unlikely to actually notice that path tracing "looks worse" as per this video.
Performance overall seems pretty good and I'm curious how it'll perform on Steam Deck, though I have several PCs with which I could run this on. I still have never finished this game.
this seems to be a popular case, especially for a game considered iconic and legendary, I have started it (own it multiple times), and have nearly reached the end,and stopped multiple times since...
I still have never finished this game.
this seems to be a popular case, especially for a game considered iconic and legendary, I have started it (own it multiple times), and have nearly reached the end,and stopped multiple times since its release. Not quite sure why, always enjoyed it, never had problems, and loved the story and gameplay.
I think it's just the long game problem. I've played hours upon hours of it, but after something like 50-hours or whatever, I find my mind wandering to other stuff and just wanting to other spend...
I think it's just the long game problem.
I've played hours upon hours of it, but after something like 50-hours or whatever, I find my mind wandering to other stuff and just wanting to other spend time with other things or finding myself wanting a different gameplay experience.
I generally game maybe half an hour to an hour at best a day, sometimes not at all. But even 50-hours means multiple months of playing the same thing, so to extend that further to 100-hours is just a big ask. I want to play and finish those games, but I also want to take breaks and when my break consists of months to a year or more, by the time I'm ready to return, I can't remember what's happening or what I'm supposed to be doing, so it just seems more prudent to start over, which kills any and all motivation.
The only long, RPG game I've really found recently that I've been able to stick with, quit for a long period and return to, is Pillars of Eternity. While I like Witcher 3, the characters and the world don't compel me in the same way. I have the memory of a fish, so I often forget story beats, but one thing I don't often forget are characters and Pillars has very strong characters, compared to Witcher 3's strong story, which my brain just will not hold on to.
Also, I think I just generally like the gameplay more in Pillars, especially given the turn based mode added earlier this year. Turn based games just click with me in a different way these days.
I have it on Siwtch and PC and I have finished it on both systems. The only thing you have to do isn't to follow the damn train, as Big Smoke may make you believe. You just have to commit. Since I...
I have it on Siwtch and PC and I have finished it on both systems.
The only thing you have to do isn't to follow the damn train, as Big Smoke may make you believe. You just have to commit.
Since I got my Switch Lite (when it came out), I pledged to myself Inwill bot walk away from the game. This got later specified a bit more:
It has to be big game, think AC: Black Flag, Zelda BotW, Witcher 3, Stardew Valley, Pokemon, Borderlands, Diablo 3 - game that has either story or some specific ending in mind; not games like Flatout or from X series
The game must really be good. If it isn't and I'm sure I will not come back to it in the future, I allow myself to drop it.
I may play some sidekick just to let me rest a bit from the main game; example of this sidekick is said Flatout where you just do a few laps or races and you are done.
Since then I finished more games than I did in my 20 years of gaming up to that point. And I'm glad I play games like this.
It allows you to fully appreciate the game, be it story, controls, characters, ... It also allows you to master it, as your mind isn't conflicted about controls because you don't play any similar game at the same time that would need you to remember its controls. You just have to commit.
And Witcher 3 is one of the biggest commitnents of my gaming life. It was bested in playtime only by Oblivion (200+ hours; this was in just ONE game run, but I did kinda everything there is to do) and is in the same ballpark as Zelda BotW. I think I played Witcher 3 for around 150 hours (each time, 300 in total) and BotW was also around that time. This means half a year with my playstyle - I play on handheld hardware, sometimes 4 hours a day, sometimes a few days without playing. I think my daily average is around 1.5 hours.
I think it would have been nice to compare it to the pre Next Gen patch (1.23 to 4.0.0 I think) which they pushed in December 2022 (You can find them by searching with the before:[year], I found one here)
Because I distinctly remember playing the whole game near launch with my GTX 980 with correct FPS and when I tried the Next Gen version with my 3080 I was kinda shocked that I was struggling to run the game, with a mean of ~40 fps I think without Ray Tracing.
I wasn't tempted to do a playthrough so I didn't try many configuration of settings, but I was taken aback by the lackluster performance for not a worthwhile jump in graphic fidelity..
So this comparison putting this patch in good light is really because the state the game was in at the latest version of the non-remaster version
I tried the OG version on my GTX 750 and while the computational part was able to achieve 30+fps it struggled on that 1GB RAM. I'd say 750 Ti would be able to run the game at some playable capacity. 980 would run the game great!
I never tried Next Gen, as I don't have PC for it at the moment. And I picked old version when playing on Steam Deck, as on its display the extra graphics of Next Gen isn't worth the power budget. I could crank the OG graphics much higher and still run Steam Deck on lower TDP and I think I got nicer looking game than low graphics Next Gen.
EDIT: spelling
When you say "I picked old version when playing on Steam Deck, as on its display the extra graphics of Next Gen isn't worth the power budget", what do you mean ?
You can play the 1.35.0 version (last one before the Next-Gen package in 2022) ?
From my understanding you can't downgrade a Steam game without going through hoops that are not available on all games, and especially difficult on the steam deck.
Yep, you can with Witcher 3 (and some other games, definitely not all though). Go into games' "Properties" and then select "Version" and there you just pick which one you want installed. There is currently classic, next-gen and default (remastered) for Witcher 3.
This is very nice of CD Projekt to leave this option available.
So indeed it must be quite better for the SteamDeck.
Another reminder of the sacrifices the AAA of today demands from our machines to have a bit nicer graphic envelope compared to 10 years ago.
Yeah, you don't need to sell the game three times when you can do it like that and be nice to players (I'm looking at all of you, Bethesda, Rockstar, Ubisoft and 2K!).
The classic version is perfect for Steam Deck. The resolution doesn't need next-gen or even remastered, the classic looks great on it and doesn't need that much power.
And Witcher 3 didn't need next-gen, nor remaster in my opinion. It is great we got them, don't get me wrong! But graphics are not what this particular game is about. Even classic version looks great to tell the story.
I know I've seen this "version" thing on some other games - ie. there is VR version of American/European Truck Simulator hidden there.
Would have been curious to see how it performs on older hardware. That said, Ray Tracing looks good, but once I'm playing the game, I'd be unlikely to actually notice that path tracing "looks worse" as per this video.
Performance overall seems pretty good and I'm curious how it'll perform on Steam Deck, though I have several PCs with which I could run this on. I still have never finished this game.
this seems to be a popular case, especially for a game considered iconic and legendary, I have started it (own it multiple times), and have nearly reached the end,and stopped multiple times since its release. Not quite sure why, always enjoyed it, never had problems, and loved the story and gameplay.
I think it's just the long game problem.
I've played hours upon hours of it, but after something like 50-hours or whatever, I find my mind wandering to other stuff and just wanting to other spend time with other things or finding myself wanting a different gameplay experience.
I generally game maybe half an hour to an hour at best a day, sometimes not at all. But even 50-hours means multiple months of playing the same thing, so to extend that further to 100-hours is just a big ask. I want to play and finish those games, but I also want to take breaks and when my break consists of months to a year or more, by the time I'm ready to return, I can't remember what's happening or what I'm supposed to be doing, so it just seems more prudent to start over, which kills any and all motivation.
The only long, RPG game I've really found recently that I've been able to stick with, quit for a long period and return to, is Pillars of Eternity. While I like Witcher 3, the characters and the world don't compel me in the same way. I have the memory of a fish, so I often forget story beats, but one thing I don't often forget are characters and Pillars has very strong characters, compared to Witcher 3's strong story, which my brain just will not hold on to.
Also, I think I just generally like the gameplay more in Pillars, especially given the turn based mode added earlier this year. Turn based games just click with me in a different way these days.
I have it on Siwtch and PC and I have finished it on both systems.
The only thing you have to do isn't to follow the damn train, as Big Smoke may make you believe. You just have to commit.
Since I got my Switch Lite (when it came out), I pledged to myself Inwill bot walk away from the game. This got later specified a bit more:
Since then I finished more games than I did in my 20 years of gaming up to that point. And I'm glad I play games like this.
It allows you to fully appreciate the game, be it story, controls, characters, ... It also allows you to master it, as your mind isn't conflicted about controls because you don't play any similar game at the same time that would need you to remember its controls. You just have to commit.
And Witcher 3 is one of the biggest commitnents of my gaming life. It was bested in playtime only by Oblivion (200+ hours; this was in just ONE game run, but I did kinda everything there is to do) and is in the same ballpark as Zelda BotW. I think I played Witcher 3 for around 150 hours (each time, 300 in total) and BotW was also around that time. This means half a year with my playstyle - I play on handheld hardware, sometimes 4 hours a day, sometimes a few days without playing. I think my daily average is around 1.5 hours.
This reply is also for @BeardyHat
Not exactly older hardware, but maybe have a look at RandomGaminginHD's video. His channel is great to know about.