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Intel Graphics teases first PC graphics card for 2020

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  1. [11]
    Gaywallet
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    Nice teaser and good luck. Nvidia hasn't had any real competition in years.

    Nice teaser and good luck. Nvidia hasn't had any real competition in years.

    9 votes
    1. [10]
      MangoTiger
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      I haven't been keeping up on hardware very closely for a while, but hasn't AMD been improving their offerings in the past few years? Edit: Thanks for the responses everyone.

      I haven't been keeping up on hardware very closely for a while, but hasn't AMD been improving their offerings in the past few years?

      Edit: Thanks for the responses everyone.

      7 votes
      1. [6]
        edenist
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        AMD have always been competitive in the GPU space. Public opinion and historical biases are still rather common [probably due to NV's much larger marketing budgets], but price and performance for...

        AMD have always been competitive in the GPU space.
        Public opinion and historical biases are still rather common [probably due to NV's much larger marketing budgets], but price and performance for at least the last decade has always been on par.

        16 votes
        1. [5]
          Gyrfalcon
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          I would add that caveat that up until the Vega release they only really competed up to mid range (GTX 1060) performance in this product cycle. Plus, both Vega and the 400 and 500 series have...

          I would add that caveat that up until the Vega release they only really competed up to mid range (GTX 1060) performance in this product cycle. Plus, both Vega and the 400 and 500 series have struggled with pricing and availability due to mining.

          Another thing to note is on AMD forums, people often set themselves up for disappointment with lofty expectations. I saw a lot of disappointed posts when Vega came out because there was no 1080TI+ level performance to be had.

          7 votes
          1. [4]
            tildez
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            When it comes down to actual numbers, almost nobody buys a 1080TI. The vast majority buy boring mid-range cards, which AMD has been very competitive if not "winning" in recently. Yet somehow...

            When it comes down to actual numbers, almost nobody buys a 1080TI. The vast majority buy boring mid-range cards, which AMD has been very competitive if not "winning" in recently. Yet somehow Nvidia outsells them by some multiple.

            I guess marketing and underhanded business tactics work.

            7 votes
            1. [3]
              thisonemakesyouthink
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              What are we considering mid range here? I would consider console level cards mid range (mid settings, 30 fps). Not something like a 1060 which does most games at high-ultra 60fps.

              What are we considering mid range here? I would consider console level cards mid range (mid settings, 30 fps). Not something like a 1060 which does most games at high-ultra 60fps.

              1 vote
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                Gyrfalcon
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                I would call the 1060 mid range because it's kind of in the middle of the product stack, and a good value compared to things above and below it in price. At least in this generation I would say...

                I would call the 1060 mid range because it's kind of in the middle of the product stack, and a good value compared to things above and below it in price. At least in this generation I would say that the 1050/ti or RX 560 would meet that console criteria, but I would struggle to call them mid range because there's simply nothing below them in the stack. Of course you could argue that the GT 1030 and RX 550 exist but I would say those aren't really in the same league, though they're great in a pinch for budget builds.

                3 votes
                1. thisonemakesyouthink
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                  The 1050 isn't the best card but it still destroys base consoles. Of course, with the new RTX line the 1060 will just be pushed even further to the bottom.

                  The 1050 isn't the best card but it still destroys base consoles. Of course, with the new RTX line the 1060 will just be pushed even further to the bottom.

                  2 votes
      2. spctrvl
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        Not in the high end, not at the moment. That's a reversal of the historic trend though. AMD/ATi was handily destroying nVidia in that segment from 2006-2015, particularly badly from 2010-2014...

        Not in the high end, not at the moment. That's a reversal of the historic trend though. AMD/ATi was handily destroying nVidia in that segment from 2006-2015, particularly badly from 2010-2014 (remember Fermi anyone?), and it didn't seem to make a damn bit of difference in market share for whatever reason.

        3 votes
      3. Gaywallet
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        They've stepped up their game a bit, but nvidia definitely still has a stranglehold, especially on the upper end.

        They've stepped up their game a bit, but nvidia definitely still has a stranglehold, especially on the upper end.

        2 votes
      4. hightrix
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        While I have seen the AMD hardware get much better and closer to the nVidia cards over the years, my holdup is still software. I've built many computers over the years ranging from intel/nvidia to...

        While I have seen the AMD hardware get much better and closer to the nVidia cards over the years, my holdup is still software. I've built many computers over the years ranging from intel/nvidia to amd/ati to every combination of those possible and have only ever had problems with AMD video cards. On more than one build, the pc has drastically underperformed due to the AMD card/drivers. With intel/nVidia, I've had very few problems.

        I know this is entirely anecdotal, but this is my opinion of AMD based on usage over the last 20 years. Overall, quality, performance, software, etc... nVidia has simply made better products for me.

        That said, I'll be very interested to see some specs and benchmarks for the intel cards!

        1 vote
  2. Zeph
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    I wonder what type of customer they'll be targeting with this card

    I wonder what type of customer they'll be targeting with this card

    3 votes
  3. [2]
    ThyMrMan
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    Will be really interested in where they take these cards, hope they release something for the high end gaming market. Nvidia has had dominance there for years since AMD just doesn't seem able to...

    Will be really interested in where they take these cards, hope they release something for the high end gaming market. Nvidia has had dominance there for years since AMD just doesn't seem able to come up with a good competitor.

    3 votes
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      1. spctrvl
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        To be perfectly fair, they said years, and the last top performing AMD card was the Fury X, which was three years ago.

        To be perfectly fair, they said years, and the last top performing AMD card was the Fury X, which was three years ago.

        1 vote