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Languages at war: Ukraine and Belgium

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    asterisk
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    Itʼs wrong on many levels. As I know, Belgium has several things: the country is federation; [at least] two majority people: Flemish and French; thereʼs almost clear border between them. The...

    Itʼs wrong on many levels.

    As I know, Belgium has several things:

    • the country is federation;
    • [at least] two majority people: Flemish and French;
    • thereʼs almost clear border between them.

    The similar situation is with mentioned Canada and Spain. While Ukraine:

    • the country is unitary;
    • only one majority people; some Ukrainians usually speak Russian not because theyʼre Russians but because of long Russification which happened not only in Ukraine. For compare, Belarusian and other minority languages in Russia are almost dead today — thatʼs what could be in Ukraine too; in history Russia tried to Russificate peoples of Poland, Moldova, Baltic countries and so on.
    • thereʼs no any border: Russian speakers are usually in big cities — where were Russian control and military forces. Before there were Polish during RP or German under Austria.

    Thanks God that thereʼs no other theme which Russian propaganda loves — Switzerland.

    Mr Lavrov has a point, relevant to both Belgium and Ukraine.

    Thus Lavrov, who isnʼt definaly Mr but war criminal, doesnʼt have any point to Ukraine.

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      So I wrote a fairly long post to give context to this submission... and I now realize I never posted it and I've now lost it. Oops. This is not a good article, but I wanted to share it for some...

      So I wrote a fairly long post to give context to this submission... and I now realize I never posted it and I've now lost it. Oops.

      This is not a good article, but I wanted to share it for some insight into Belgium. Van Parjis, the author, doesn't seem to understand as much about the situation as he likes to think he does. He's talked a lot about how to preserve minority cultures in an environment that threatens them, though.
      See, Dutch is certainly not a threatened culture or language, but within Belgium what is threatened is its bilinguality. I think that's a huge shame. The article was also written at the time of the hilariously moronic argument Lavrov made about how "France might react" or something -- it was doubly funny to me because I used the Netherlands invading Belgium as a parallel before in the context of this war.

      But yes, absolutely - it's a pretty piss-poor take, especially since Ukrainian is far more threatened than Russian. I would wager PVP saw the "native language" numbers and rushed to opine, utterly failing to put those numbers in the context of the trend: A clear threat to Ukrainian as both a language and a culture, which doesn't have a "fallback" country preserving it.

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