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The Guardian newspaper has lost two trans employees over its reporting on trans issues

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  1. Grzmot
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    Reminds me of that tweet from a Huffington Post editor essentially trying to bait the compliment about how diverse their writing team full of white women is:...

    Reminds me of that tweet from a Huffington Post editor essentially trying to bait the compliment about how diverse their writing team full of white women is: https://mobile.twitter.com/lheron/status/733758898855940098

    They got shut down by Twitter.

    Twitter.

    My point essentially is that no matter how WOKE a place is or claims to be, there's always a good chance that they're not as accepting. The fact that the Guardian of all places, where the opinions section sometimes gets really fucking bad in a way seems right out of an alt-righters' strawman argument, actually isn't as accepting of a place is funny and sad at the same time. Cynically funny because hey, it's just people lying again, sad because hey, trans people are still more than often viewed as subhuman.

    There's no but (though I hope there are many butts) to acceptance. You either do or you don't. You can either apply the same principles to everyone or be an asshole.

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      Deimos
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      Please stop posting short, sarcastic/dismissive comments immediately. They don't contribute anything to a discussion and are consistently (and correctly) being labeled as Noise by other users.

      Please stop posting short, sarcastic/dismissive comments immediately. They don't contribute anything to a discussion and are consistently (and correctly) being labeled as Noise by other users.

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      1. alexandria
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        Also, I refound this by accident (rereading the thread) and I cannot really see what you're referring to with regards to "posting short, sarcastic/dismissive comments immediately". Most of my...

        Also, I refound this by accident (rereading the thread) and I cannot really see what you're referring to with regards to "posting short, sarcastic/dismissive comments immediately". Most of my other comments were threads on something, or otherwise getting upvoted. Like I said before, without seeing which comments were designated as "noise", there isn't much of a warning before your comment, which as I understand it is, "moderator is about to banhammer you will you Please STOP". There should be more room for correction of error? On lobsters downvotes have a reason field, which allow you to clearly see the reasons people have downvoted or reported your comment. Maybe it would be useful to adopt into Tildes?

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        alexandria
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        It would be useful if -- like on lobste.rs -- I could see which posts were getting downvoted as 'noise', because from what I can see the ratio of my non-short posts is much higher, and I've only...

        It would be useful if -- like on lobste.rs -- I could see which posts were getting downvoted as 'noise', because from what I can see the ratio of my non-short posts is much higher, and I've only made one or two posts that are actual noise. IMO it's fundamentally a problem if the first warning that the user sees of discouraged behavior is being silenced by a moderator -- as a user you should get the chance to know about and correct much, much earlier. It's pretty clear that there isn't any room for a discussion on this post, but I was genuinely interested to see if anyone was going to try and explain it from the Guardian's point of view.

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          CALICO
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          Perhaps a more visual indication would be beneficial when viewing one's own comments. Currently if a comment has reached a noise threshold then it should appear auto-collapsed, and at the bottom...

          Perhaps a more visual indication would be beneficial when viewing one's own comments. Currently if a comment has reached a noise threshold then it should appear auto-collapsed, and at the bottom of a comment thread. Not easy to verify from just looking at our user page, granted.

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          1. alexandria
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            Many people -- including myself, do not view their own comments (there is no reason if there are no replies). So this would be useless. A notification or email would be more salient to the user.

            Many people -- including myself, do not view their own comments (there is no reason if there are no replies). So this would be useless. A notification or email would be more salient to the user.