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Butcher block countertops - stain and finishing

Howdy all,

TL;DR - Installed new cabinets, picked up new butcher block countertops to match existing. Stained it - using the Minwax stain and planned on using Watco Butcher Block finish to finish it. I am concerned about food safety and health. Note I am not using these as actual cutting boards. Just countertops. Would using the Watco finish be safe/sufficient for sealing the stain?

So to give a little context, my wife and I moved into our home close to 5 years ago. The person who flipped our house put in standard big box birch butcher block countertops. We like them! They stained them a nice dark color and we have not thought much about them. From what they mentioned, they "finished" the counters with the Watco Butcher Block finish. Occasionally the areas near the sink get grey and dry from water and could use a clean/restoration. Of which I have been using Howard butcher block conditioner and I think it does a great job of giving the wood some life.

Now I finally got around to installing some more cabinets, and I picked up another countertop. Obviously wanting it to match, I just used the same Minwax stain that the flipper used. I had planned on sanding all of the old countertops re-applying the stain and then coating in some urethane-like topcoat in hopes of helping stop the discoloration and make the counter more durable.

This lead me down a rabbit hole of a bunch of people online basically yelling about putting anything other than butcher block finish or mineral oil on butcher block countertops and how its not food safe/toxic. So naturally this kind of freaked me out. Is the stain on the current counters harmful? Do I need to sand everything and then reapply with just a food safe option? Can I just sand and add a poly topcoat? Or am I fine to just have the stain on it and use the Watco butcher block finish? AM I POISONING MYSELF?!

I would like to add we do not use these countertops as actual cutting boards. We always use a "real" cutting board.

Really I am just looking for some advice or a sanity check to make sure I'm not harming ourselves. Hoping this could also help someone else learn without having to do it the hard way.

Thanks all so much for any info anyone is willing to provide.

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    AugustusFerdinand
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    In short: People online tend to go to extremes and think there's only one way to do things. You're fine. Technically, your countertops are not food safe. The solution is simple, don't eat off of...

    In short: People online tend to go to extremes and think there's only one way to do things. You're fine.

    Technically, your countertops are not food safe. The solution is simple, don't eat off of them, don't use them as a cutting board. If food hits it, it isn't magically going to go nuclear. If you slapped a steak on your countertops, handed me a knife and fork, and told me to have at it I would do so.
    You would need to regularly and irresponsibly eat off of the countertops for there to be any actual chance of a negative outcome.

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    1. TheD00d
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      Thank you! Seriously. Thank you. I think I was just having a manic moment about these stains and finishes and I appreciate someone talking me down. I also think sleeping helped a bit LOL. Anyways...

      Thank you! Seriously. Thank you. I think I was just having a manic moment about these stains and finishes and I appreciate someone talking me down.

      I also think sleeping helped a bit LOL. Anyways I think you are right, since I am not using these food for prep or cutting, I think the risk is minimal and I will continue with my plan to use the Minwax stain and then "finish" with the watco butcher block oil. If I ever find myself having to do this again from scratch I think I would just stick to beeswax/mineral oil and ensure that the color of the butcher block itself was close to what we wanted and not rely on finishes.

      Thank you!

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    patience_limited
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    The most recent issue of The American Peasant newsletter happened to present the relative merits of various finishes for a handmade dining table. Christopher Schwartz has been a fine woodworker...

    The most recent issue of The American Peasant newsletter happened to present the relative merits of various finishes for a handmade dining table. Christopher Schwartz has been a fine woodworker for a very long time, and his advice was as follows:

    A Finish for the Top of a Dining Table

    Almost every week on the Open Wire, we get asked some variation of the question: What finish should I use for the top of a dining table?

    My answer is not going to be the most obvious one (polyurethane/varnish) or the most durable (conversion varnish or – shudder – bartop). Instead, my preferred finish comes from the fact that these three qualities are now most important to me:

    1. I want a finish that is easily repaired, even if that means it is less durable.

    2. I want a finish that looks better the more it is used.

    3. I want a finish without dangerous solvents or heavy-metal driers.

    So why do I no longer like the highly durable finishes, such as conversion varnish, lacquer and polyurethane/varnish? They all have poisonous solvents, which the woodworker (me) has to endure. The finishes are safe (enough) after they have cured. Also, these finishes look great until they reach a tipping point, but then they deteriorate and look terrible. And they are difficult to repair. Usually you have to strip the finish and start over.

    What about shellac? It is easy to repair and doesn’t have to use a dangerous solvent. Correct. Shellac is OK for tabletops. It is easy to repair. Usually you just have to pad on some more shellac. But when it deteriorates, it looks like crap – just like lacquer and polyurethane/varnish.

    If I want a shiny, high-style finish, then I will definitely use shellac. And a good coat of wax.

    So what meets all the criteria? Several finishes.

    1. Paint. Don’t immediately discount it. Paint is durable, can be non-toxic, looks better when it gets beat up. It is easy to repair (add more paint). Most woodworkers are horrified at the idea of painting a tabletop. I am not.

    2. Some sort of oil, wax or combination of oil and wax. These finishes are so safe they can be edible. Beeswax and raw linseed oil are used to coat our foods – or even used as food. They are not durable at all. But they are easy to repair (add more oil and/or wax). And they look better the more they are used. (My daughter Katherine – yes, the same one who used to vault herself off our trestle table’s breadboard ends) makes and sells Soft Wax 2.0 here. We let readers know on our Lost Art Press blog when new batches are available.)

    3. Soap. It is completely safe. Easy to renew/repair. But it offers almost no protection. It is used in many Scandinavian countries on furniture, woodwork and floors. My desk has a soap finish and I can attest to the fact that it looks better with age. After almost 10 years it has a glow that no finish can give you on the first day.

    I don’t expect you to follow my advice. It takes time to realize that all these fancy film finishes are really short-term solutions. If your spouse really wants a durable finish on a tabletop, here’s what I would do:

    Mix any oil-based polyurethane/varnish 50/50 with low-odor mineral spirits. Wipe on a thin coat. Wipe it until it is just barely there. Let it dry. Scuff-sand it a little with #320-grit sandpaper until it is smooth. Then add another very thin coat of the mixture. Repeat five or six times until the finish starts to build. It is time-consuming. When it fails it will look like crap. But it will protect the tabletop for a good long while. (Perhaps until you come to your senses and switch to an easily repaired finish.)

    If you visit the site and look at the dining table photograph, the refinished table top is absolutely gorgeous, with the subtle glow and beautifully revealed grain of a wax finish. As the article suggests, you're making a trade-off between short-run labor savings in a low-maintenance finish that will require extensive work to strip and refinish, versus a finish that requires regular maintenance.

    Aside from the solvent exposure while applying them, polymer finishes aren't especially toxic once cured. Unless you're actually carving on the counter, they're not going to be a significant source of microplastics, and it's easier to sanitize a fully sealed surface. However, one thing I've noticed about wood finishes in wet environments - you can get dark mold growth in the wood under a urethane layer, and the stain is nearly irremediable, millimeters deep. This doesn't tend to happen as much with butcher block mineral oil, because the end grains can still dissipate moisture.

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    1. TheD00d
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      Thank you! As instated in the other post, if I had to redo this, I would just use a natural finish like wax or mineral oil. For now, I'll keep the stain on it and finish it with the watco butcher...

      Thank you! As instated in the other post, if I had to redo this, I would just use a natural finish like wax or mineral oil. For now, I'll keep the stain on it and finish it with the watco butcher block oil and then add a layer of mineral oil+beeswax once it needs some restoration.

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