Dear Mr. Frum, kindly fuck off back to America (and stay there) where that absolutist free-speech attitude actually flies. An attitude that IMO is exactly the reason for so much of the recent hate...
Forceful interruption of public events is almost always wrong. If I see you reading a book that I dislike, I have no right to grab it from you. In a free society, there can be no equivalent of the Saudi religious police, monitoring public behavior and discourse and interrupting things of which they disapprove.
Dear Mr. Frum, kindly fuck off back to America (and stay there) where that absolutist free-speech attitude actually flies. An attitude that IMO is exactly the reason for so much of the recent hate crimes, mass shootings and violence being committed against minorities, not to mention the now batshit insane political landscape there... an insane landscape which you contributed to greatly during the Bush years, I might add. Some ideas are not worth it to society to even allow "debate" over and IMO many of the views expressed by Steve Bannon fall under that category.
The real lesson you should have learned from the debate and the protests surrounding it is that you are not welcome up here in your native country anymore and there are incredibly valid reasons why we have hate speech and truth in journalism laws, unlike in the US. Laws which you would have come dangerously close to violating several times over the years had you lived and worked in Canada still, with your vitriolic, Islamophobic, libelous, chickenhawk, warmongering bullshit. Just because Bannon makes you look like a fucking saint by comparison doesn't absolve you of your past sins.
So no, I personally would not accept an invitation to debate “Resolved, husbands should be allowed to beat their wives,” or “Resolved, the white race is the best race.” I would strenuously object if any organization in which I had a role proposed to mount such a debate.
So no debates on blatantly white supremacist or misogynist premises... how very enlightened and born-again "liberal" of you! And yet I have no doubt if the debate involved a blindly pro-Israel, Islamophobic position you would be first in line to defend it, like the hypocritical piece of shit that you are.
No, no, no... you have got it all wrong. David Frum isn't a Republican Neocon anymore and regrets his previous pro-war, pro-Bush, pro-Rove stances! He hates Trump and even voted for Hillary...
No, no, no... you have got it all wrong. David Frum isn't a Republican Neocon anymore and regrets his previous pro-war, pro-Bush, pro-Rove stances! He hates Trump and even voted for Hillary Clinton so he is totes a Liberal now and a valiant defender of Liberal values and Liberal Democracy, just like he stated over and over again in this article. He's born-again so we should all just take him at his word and forgive him all his past transgressions! /s
I think you're misunderstanding the statement that "Bannon is not a marginal figure." This isn't intended to place Bannon's political views in the centre of the political spectrum. It's intended...
This seems at odds with itself. Steve Bannon is a fringe figure.
I think you're misunderstanding the statement that "Bannon is not a marginal figure." This isn't intended to place Bannon's political views in the centre of the political spectrum. It's intended to acknowledge that Bannon is not some minor unknown kook hiding on the margins of society; he's a recognisable, well-known person with influence. For goodness' sake - he worked in the White House for the President of the United States of America! You don't get any less marginal than that! That places him right at the centre of one of the most powerful political organisations in the world. He's important to the modern political situation in the USA, because he helped to bring it about, and because he was at the centre of it for a while.
That statement is saying that Steve Bannon is important, not that his politics are mainstream: "He is a central personality in the history of our times."
From the second paragraph of your own article: 200 is slightly more than a dozen. Also, from your original article: He might be a nobody, but he's a nobody who at least 2,800 people will pay to...
He can't even fill a small meeting room with more than a dozen people at this point.
From the second paragraph of your own article:
Bannon appeared in front of 200 people at a firehouse outside Buffalo, New York,
200 is slightly more than a dozen.
Also, from your original article:
Tickets sold out within 15 minutes after Toronto’s Munk Debates announced that I would debate Steve Bannon on its platform.
The Munk Debates [...] have brought the learned, the preeminent, and the notorious to Toronto’s 2,800-seat symphony hall
He might be a nobody, but he's a nobody who at least 2,800 people will pay to see.
It's all very well and good to dislike someone, but don't let that dislike lead to misinformation. We already have enough trouble with people spreading fake news at the moment. Please don't add to it.
Dear Mr. Frum, kindly fuck off back to America (and stay there) where that absolutist free-speech attitude actually flies. An attitude that IMO is exactly the reason for so much of the recent hate crimes, mass shootings and violence being committed against minorities, not to mention the now batshit insane political landscape there... an insane landscape which you contributed to greatly during the Bush years, I might add. Some ideas are not worth it to society to even allow "debate" over and IMO many of the views expressed by Steve Bannon fall under that category.
The real lesson you should have learned from the debate and the protests surrounding it is that you are not welcome up here in your native country anymore and there are incredibly valid reasons why we have hate speech and truth in journalism laws, unlike in the US. Laws which you would have come dangerously close to violating several times over the years had you lived and worked in Canada still, with your vitriolic, Islamophobic, libelous, chickenhawk, warmongering bullshit. Just because Bannon makes you look like a fucking saint by comparison doesn't absolve you of your past sins.
So no debates on blatantly white supremacist or misogynist premises... how very enlightened and born-again "liberal" of you! And yet I have no doubt if the debate involved a blindly pro-Israel, Islamophobic position you would be first in line to defend it, like the hypocritical piece of shit that you are.
p.s. For all those wondering why I hate this man so much, here is just the most recent of many, many, reasons:
https://www.huffingtonpost.ca/entry/david-frum-nyt-fake-gaza-photo_n_5633782
No, no, no... you have got it all wrong. David Frum isn't a Republican Neocon anymore and regrets his previous pro-war, pro-Bush, pro-Rove stances! He hates Trump and even voted for Hillary Clinton so he is totes a Liberal now and a valiant defender of Liberal values and Liberal Democracy, just like he stated over and over again in this article. He's born-again so we should all just take him at his word and forgive him all his past transgressions! /s
I think you're misunderstanding the statement that "Bannon is not a marginal figure." This isn't intended to place Bannon's political views in the centre of the political spectrum. It's intended to acknowledge that Bannon is not some minor unknown kook hiding on the margins of society; he's a recognisable, well-known person with influence. For goodness' sake - he worked in the White House for the President of the United States of America! You don't get any less marginal than that! That places him right at the centre of one of the most powerful political organisations in the world. He's important to the modern political situation in the USA, because he helped to bring it about, and because he was at the centre of it for a while.
That statement is saying that Steve Bannon is important, not that his politics are mainstream: "He is a central personality in the history of our times."
From the second paragraph of your own article:
200 is slightly more than a dozen.
Also, from your original article:
He might be a nobody, but he's a nobody who at least 2,800 people will pay to see.
It's all very well and good to dislike someone, but don't let that dislike lead to misinformation. We already have enough trouble with people spreading fake news at the moment. Please don't add to it.