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A week in Xinjiang's absolute surveillance state

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    jackson
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    That's honestly terrifying. This is a literal dystopia, and I wouldn't be surprised if someone were to find a book that very closely mirrors this model of a province. It also amazes me how much...

    That's honestly terrifying. This is a literal dystopia, and I wouldn't be surprised if someone were to find a book that very closely mirrors this model of a province.

    It also amazes me how much funding China has poured into these efforts-- they're employing enough police to man a guard station inside almost each business, also providing passport and ID scanning equipment. That's some serious dedication.

    The author says that this model probably won't roll out to the rest of China, but I think Xinjiang is a test zone for this method, and the government will implement a similar form in the rest of China once they work out all the kinks.

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    1. cfabbro
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      As abhorrent as what is happening in Xinjiang appears to be [1] [2] [3] [4], China rarely uses a one size fits all approach and instead only tends to do these sinicization (cultural assimilation)...

      The author says that this model probably won't roll out to the rest of China, but I think Xinjiang is a test zone for this method, and the government will implement a similar form in the rest of China once they work out all the kinks.

      As abhorrent as what is happening in Xinjiang appears to be [1] [2] [3] [4], China rarely uses a one size fits all approach and instead only tends to do these sinicization (cultural assimilation) efforts in "problem" regions. In this case that "problem" is Xinjiang being a "hotbed" for ethnic/religious based separatist movements, violence/riots and terrorism (see: East Turkestan independence movement, Ürümqi riots, TIP/TIM/ETIM), which is why it is being treated largely like Tibet was during the 50s-80s. The likelihood of the Chinese government feeling it necessary to implement similarly extreme security measures in any of the predominantly Han Chinese or already assimilated regions is remarkably slim IMO, as the author of this article also concluded.

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    2. Zeerph
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      What purpose would such a system serve in other Chinese provinces? The government likely already has access to all purchasing records from Alibaba (Alipay) and Tencent (Wechat pay). Denizens are...

      and the government will implement a similar form in the rest of China once they work out all the kinks.

      What purpose would such a system serve in other Chinese provinces? The government likely already has access to all purchasing records from Alibaba (Alipay) and Tencent (Wechat pay). Denizens are constantly being recorded in public and there's already a rollout of facial and gait recognition. And everything from battle.net accounts to SIM cards requires tieing that to your national ID.

      China is already a surveillance state for the vast majority of its people, but a massive upsurge in the visible amount of police in the rest of China would probably only happen after large scale unrest as the rest of the populace seem to be relatively content with the status quo.

      While I do think the CCP is trying out something in Xinjiang that they could possibly implement sometime in the future in the rest of China, they would only do so with a very good reason and unless there is some sort of general revolt, it probably won't happen.

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