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When YouTube red-pills the love of your life

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  1. [2]
    dubteedub
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    There is a fascinating big data tool that scrapes both reddit and gab called pushshift.io that I recently got connected to. One kf its tools lets you see how specific subs on reddit describe...

    There is a fascinating big data tool that scrapes both reddit and gab called pushshift.io that I recently got connected to. One kf its tools lets you see how specific subs on reddit describe different nouns.

    Here is the pulldown for how r/theredpill describes "females."

    Description for females: hypergamous | incredibly insecure | so nit picky with their relationships | valued that much because they have the power to select mates and give life | leftist up to the extreme | becoming lazier and lazier | degenerate | not distinguishable they don't display the kind of behavior that would drive your entire premise | easy holes | designed to have babies and take care of the family and home | real | attracted to | equally responsible for their own happiness | no exception | sexually selective | far more selective when it come's to mating | biologically different | not evil | not an object that can be given away as a reward | the gatekeepers of sex | around | a troublesome public health development that everybody will one day need to face | fair game | only voting for the politicians who enact policies of opening floodgates to mena immigrants

    When you are indoctrinated to a community like this, it shouls be of no surprise how it completely warps their view of women.


    On a personal level, I am also incredibly frustrated that sites like reddit and youtube are helping radicalize an entire generation of vulnerable men like the one desribed in this post.

    The pathways to the altright / red pill / incels are helped so much by these sites and their abdication of responsibility to take action to prevent it I fear is going to cause a significant crisis in our future.

    McInnes, Molyneux, and 4chan: Investigating pathways to the alt-right

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    Incredible article. This was telling though: Seems like a strong tell that someone's a bit of a man-child if they have to figure out who's doing what laundry. I wonder if an algorithm can predict...

    Incredible article.

    This was telling though:

    By the end of their relationship in September, though, she found herself having to not only try to get Craig to do his share of the laundry

    Seems like a strong tell that someone's a bit of a man-child if they have to figure out who's doing what laundry.

    I wonder if an algorithm can predict whether someone will be red-pilled based on how little laundry or how few dishes they wash.

    edit: Also, this is definitely an indication of a cyberpunk future with enclaves. People will voluntarily join groups for ideals that aren't really connected to anything. Red pills aren't really conservatives, they aren't really neo-liberals, they're not really anarcho-capitalists, they aren't really religious of any persuasion, etc. They're their own group with its own mores and rules and ideas. Are they sub-cultures? Not really because they have infrastructure. Democratizing the means of productions also means these weird enclaves also get access. The future is going to get even weirder than it already is. We're essentially seeing gated communities formed in the mind.

    8 votes
    1. dubteedub
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      Maybe it relates more to their belief that housework like that is a woman's responsibility? I could imagine that a stronger belief in gender roles could correlate to red pill / inceldom.

      I wonder if an algorithm can predict whether someone will be red-pilled based on how little laundry or how few dishes they wash.

      Maybe it relates more to their belief that housework like that is a woman's responsibility? I could imagine that a stronger belief in gender roles could correlate to red pill / inceldom.

      7 votes
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    Octofox
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    Its interesting how people go this way. I run a casual linux irc channel and in the beginning there was this user who was mostly ok but it was clear they had some mental issues, they would get...

    Its interesting how people go this way. I run a casual linux irc channel and in the beginning there was this user who was mostly ok but it was clear they had some mental issues, they would get really angry over trivial things every now and then but nothing too serious. Over the next 2-3 years they when from slightly unstable to fully insane. All they ever posted was racist rants and anti gay messages despite being gay themself. Eventually had to ban them because they were so far gone it was clear they could never participate in a civil group.

    I just don't know what happened. How does this happen so fast? Are certain people more susceptible to this? Does our modern tech cause this? What can be done?

    8 votes
    1. Diff
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      I'm not sure but some people are just very susceptible to just kind of absorbing the stuff they immerse themselves in. My girlfriend has tried to slip down some weird roads in the past, just by...

      I'm not sure but some people are just very susceptible to just kind of absorbing the stuff they immerse themselves in. My girlfriend has tried to slip down some weird roads in the past, just by coming into prolonged contact with people from those roads. For example, in the past she had a roommate who often browsed /v/fatpeoplehate. When they'd go out to Walmart or whatever they'd go "whale-spotting." It was pretty awful. But when she was removed from that influence she shed all that insane crap very quickly without that continuing outside influence. You ask her now and she's pretty horrified about it. She's kind of a special case, like your IRC friends she's got a little extra baggage but I wonder if the same would hold for other people.

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    One terrible side-effect of ideological atrocities such as "the red pill" is the eradication of nuance. There are relevant matters regarding men's issues that should be openly discussed in a...

    One terrible side-effect of ideological atrocities such as "the red pill" is the eradication of nuance. There are relevant matters regarding men's issues that should be openly discussed in a sensible, non-antagonizing fashion, but things became so polarized that one needs to be very careful to not inadvertently fuel bigoted agendas.

    7 votes
    1. [2]
      dubteedub
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      I have found r/menslib to be a great outlet to discuss mens topics without the misogyny and hate

      I have found r/menslib to be a great outlet to discuss mens topics without the misogyny and hate

      4 votes
      1. mrbig
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        I'll take a look, thanks.

        I'll take a look, thanks.

        2 votes