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  1. Comment on The 9/11 era is over in ~misc

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    Oh yeah, the treatment of The Other at the time was abysmal and truly disgusting.

    Oh yeah, the treatment of The Other at the time was abysmal and truly disgusting.

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  2. Comment on Daily coronavirus-related chat, questions, and minor updates - April 7 in ~health.coronavirus

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    I think we've hit a plateau in the US, but not for the right reasons. We seem to be hanging around ~30k new confirmed cases per day, but as far as I can find, we're still only able to process...

    I think we've hit a plateau in the US, but not for the right reasons. We seem to be hanging around ~30k new confirmed cases per day, but as far as I can find, we're still only able to process about 100k tests per day. If we're still seeing roughly 30% of tested individuals as positive, I fear we have many more cases out there still, and probably growing faster than our current testing is able to accurately detect.

    This has lead me to also consider people will incorrectly assume this is the plateau or the top of the virus and will lead to a reduction in social distancing and stay-at-home orders, with many governments eager to try to get people back to work. If it is premature, it will only invite a second wave.

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  3. Comment on The 9/11 era is over in ~misc

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    Really good piece, and I appreciate the author sharing his journey and dealing with post-9/11 feelings. I was considerably younger than the author but vividly remember how it seemed every American...

    Really good piece, and I appreciate the author sharing his journey and dealing with post-9/11 feelings. I was considerably younger than the author but vividly remember how it seemed every American became very patriotic after 9/11. Flags were everywhere. Everyone seemed to be united and in agreement. It was pretty wild, looking back on it.

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  4. Comment on Astartes - Part Five in ~games

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    This is, by far, the best video series that captures the feeling of the Warhammer universe. Very excited to see the last episode of this come out, and very curious to see what he has in store in...

    This is, by far, the best video series that captures the feeling of the Warhammer universe. Very excited to see the last episode of this come out, and very curious to see what he has in store in the future.

    I really wish GW would just hire this guy and throw tons of money at him to make cool Warhammer videos.

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  5. Comment on Apple has acquired the Dark Sky weather app - Android version and website will shut down on July 1, API active through end of 2021 in ~tech

  6. Comment on Daily coronavirus-related chat, questions, and minor updates - April 2 in ~health.coronavirus

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    Is this just using a crisis for political gain, or does it actually have some reasoning?

    The Greens are asking for 2 additional nuclear plants to be shut down during the crisis.

    Is this just using a crisis for political gain, or does it actually have some reasoning?

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  7. Comment on Apple has acquired the Dark Sky weather app - Android version and website will shut down on July 1, API active through end of 2021 in ~tech

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    I have Brave, Chrome, and Opera on my iOS device...

    iOS can only run Safari of course.

    I have Brave, Chrome, and Opera on my iOS device...

  8. Comment on What's a good name for my open source, tactical WW2 FPS? in ~games

  9. Comment on Daily coronavirus-related chat, questions, and minor updates - March 28 in ~health.coronavirus

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    We had our first 75 F (23 C) and 80 F (26 C) days this past week in Eastern Tennessee. As far as I could tell, no one stayed in their homes. We went out for our weekly groceries that day and...

    We had our first 75 F (23 C) and 80 F (26 C) days this past week in Eastern Tennessee. As far as I could tell, no one stayed in their homes. We went out for our weekly groceries that day and everywhere was PACKED.

    From my perspective, it doesn't bode well.

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  10. Comment on The new U.S. stimulus bill is massive, but it might not be enough in ~finance

  11. Comment on Daily coronavirus-related chat, questions, and minor updates - March 26 in ~health.coronavirus

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    There's a very real chance that by the end of the day, the USA will have the highest number of cases by country.

    There's a very real chance that by the end of the day, the USA will have the highest number of cases by country.

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  12. Comment on It's up to you: data shows coronavirus can only be controlled if eight out of 10 Aussies stay home in ~health.coronavirus

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    I don't know if this is applicable exactly to other countries, but I'd expect it to be comparable. We aren't doing anywhere close to this in the USA, so that's not a great sign.

    I don't know if this is applicable exactly to other countries, but I'd expect it to be comparable.

    We aren't doing anywhere close to this in the USA, so that's not a great sign.

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  13. Comment on Why don't we just ban targeted advertising? in ~tech

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    I thought there was a really excellent rebuttal to a more accepting idea over on Reddit and wanted to share it here. Posted for those who don't want to jump back to Reddit (but context for the...

    I thought there was a really excellent rebuttal to a more accepting idea over on Reddit and wanted to share it here.

    Posted for those who don't want to jump back to Reddit (but context for the response is handy), I've lightly edited their edits out and a couple of spelling errors:

    Because targeted advertising is better than non-targeted advertising for both the seller and the buyer. There's really no room for debate on that point.

    Umm, there is plenty of room left for debate on this point. Just because a product is relevant to someone's interests doesn't mean that buying it is in their best interest.

    Additionally, I think that we should really consider to what extent advertising has an effect on one's identity and identity-shaping process. As someone who wrote their thesis on the subject of how advertising affects a persons autonomy, let me leave you a few breadcrumbs on this.

    Take a look at Attention Merchants by Tim Wu. It goes into great length about how we got from snake oil to today's bullshit. The veil is lifted on how advertisers creep into our minds and throughout the book one realizes how this is very clearly not in our interest. The closer the advertisers get to the actual people that they are advertising to, the more harm that can be and is often done.

    A word on identities. We all go through identity-formation processes throughout our life. This often starts off and goes back-and-forth between established societial identities, such as punkers, patriots, various -ers from -isms, and a sense of our own self in the world. Advertisers take advantage and manipulate this process. Healthy identity formation comes from shared values and personal experiences, which create the foundation of the identity. But advertisers have invaded our lives and pushed to redefine our identities not by these things, but by products. And they did it. Possessions, once merely a vehicle for our own self-identification, have become a large part of what defines us. This is because, over the time, the question has started to be risen: "If you don't have this product, are you really ______?" It comes in various forms and never so direct, but the desired outcome arrives: More money for the advertisers and the sellers. And the more deeply ingrained you can get your product into an identity group, not just any individual, the better and more secure revenue stream can be captured.

    This is problematic. This is not better for us. For more information on this point, check out this article Advertising and Social Identity.

    One more point while I'm on it.

    You're at the supermarket. You're feeling fine. You just need to pick up some bread. Goddamn, you love PB&J. Let's do this thing and get home to make this shit. You're walking down the aisle, and before you get to the bread, you are, of course, seeing the many products on the shelves. Considered simply 'packaging', they are all really advertisements themselves. You see the M&Ms, and you stop. You walk up and take a look, your mouth starts to water a bit. Well, they are on sale...

    We're animals, and advertisements train us to behave in certain ways. No, they aren't going to control your mind entirely, but they will influence your decisions to some degree. Wonder why you never bought any of those fifty other brands of chocolate? When you get to the store, those options have always been there, but they've never felt like the right choice. The safe choice, those delicious little balls of goodness, M&Ms. The packaging, just a picture on a piece of plastic, makes you feel something and reminds you of what's to wait after ripping it open.

    This effect on us is not usually done after the first advertisement. Advertisers send us thousands and thousands of messages. They don't need to win the battle, just the war. If you don't try it today, or this year, they're betting that you will eventually, at least at some point in the next five years. Have you ever thought to yourself "Okay, fine, I'll try it" to a product that you've seen advertisements for but never tried, and maybe even went out of your way to say "That's dumb, I'd never buy that." Well, here you are. Giving them your money. It's not a mind control switch, it's pavlovs dog. Sure, you have free will, but it can be influenced. They can make it harder for you to say no. They can weaken your will through these advertisements. And that's exactly what they aim to do. Create brand awareness, create the idea that this is one of the 'legitimate options', as if the competition couldn't possibly rank up. And what did they tell you in the advertisements, I mean really, what was the content? Did they go into details about how incredible their product is, showing off all of the scientific data? Did they go into detail about the information on the back of the M&M's packet, showing that they're not just tastier, but healthier too? No. They used a cartoon, or a hot chick, or something else. They played a movie for you. And this is highly more effective at getting us to buy, but not for making better decisions.

    Because the best time to decide to buy something is when you don't feel the pressure, or the craving. Car dealers want you to buy when you feel pressured, when you feel like you've already dumped so much time into the process. M&M doesn't want you to buy when you're looking at the advertisement naked in your house. They want to get you ready, so that when you walk in the store, looking for bread, ah. Look at that, they're on sale.

    This effect does not help us to make better decisions. It instead puts more pressure on our minds. Weakens our will to give into baser desires that occur upon the trigger of a brand identity. Pair this with identity-targeted advertisements, and your in for some horrorshow fun.

    You have to be really, really careful with this stuff. They act as predators, waiting to pounce by creating weaknesses in us that we would never otherwise see coming. Playing on our psychology to move another dollar from our hands to theirs. Some people just watch the super bowl for the funny advertisements. Ever wonder who really pays for the $1million/min ads? It's them. Over the course of years, it's them. Throughout a number of decisions that, if they had simply been given the information and made the decision on their own, they may have otherwise not have spent that money.

    Only decide to buy something in moments without passion. If you feel any pressure at all, walk away. Come back. Are they saying it's a one time only deal, that you've only got this chance right now to save money. Tell them to fuck off. Walk away. Think about it. Stop thinking about it. Think about it again. Sleep. Wait a couple days. Make a Pros and Cons chart. Does it make sense to make this transaction? Normally such a thorough process wouldn't be necessary, but in our current predicament, it's an important first step to make better buying decisions, and better decisions in general. Don't fall for all this treat yourself nonsense that people push, that feeling when you're in the store "Well, I deserve it." Okay, sure. Go home, think about it, and if you still feel that way then come back. If it's not worth coming back for, it's not worth buying at all. But that wouldn't make people more money, so you usually won't hear anyone tell you that.

    Anyway, If you want to delve deeper into this topic check out Brandwashed by Martin Lindstrom. He made his millions doing exactly this, and goes into details about how he and other advertisers manipulate personal and social identities and desires in order to get people to spend more.

    Between the two books and the article mentioned, there's more than enough references to keep going with research. But not only is there enough room for debate on the topic you mentioned, but I'd also like to say that you're really, really fucking incorrect on this one.

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