This is not the "cancel culture" people are actually worried about. While celebrity will always bring the most attention to a problem it's not the one the general populous cares about. It is the...
This is not the "cancel culture" people are actually worried about. While celebrity will always bring the most attention to a problem it's not the one the general populous cares about. It is the person in the less powerful position, that causes a general unease when we hear about these things.
Good segment. Really glad he brought up the lack of an apology, because that's precisely what's been missing from the ones I'd ever even consider forgiving in the slightest: Louis CK, Kevin...
Good segment.
Really glad he brought up the lack of an apology, because that's precisely what's been missing from the ones I'd ever even consider forgiving in the slightest: Louis CK, Kevin Spacey, Kevin Hart, Aziz Ansari. The fact that they haven't, and the fact they're doubling down on not apologizing just really solidifies them as being the shitty person that they are.
...also I really wish this guy in the vid would fix the fucking camera lens/soft focus, it drives me bananas!
Oh I could totally be missing something on my end/haven't kept up. IIRC Louis CK got heat on account he never said he was sorry, the closest he got was "I am remorseful." Aziz has more or less...
Oh I could totally be missing something on my end/haven't kept up. IIRC Louis CK got heat on account he never said he was sorry, the closest he got was "I am remorseful." Aziz has more or less said sorry you felt that way, and doesn't understand why what he did was wrong. Spacey said "if I did that, sorry" and deflected into his announcement. And Kevin Hart, as the video points out, refuses to apologize.
Again I could totally be missing something, so if there's updates on any of those, by all means let me know.
The problem is that the apology does not come across as sincere at all. It is subtle, but if you have actually paid attention to the facts of the case, the "apology" just serves to minimise/give a...
The problem is that the apology does not come across as sincere at all.
It is subtle, but if you have actually paid attention to the facts of the case, the "apology" just serves to minimise/give a deceptive account of what he actually did.
For example:
These stories are true. At the time, I said to myself that what I did was okay because I never showed a woman my dick without asking first, which is also true.
Thanks (in part) to this line, I still see people spreading the myth that he 'always got consent first'. Here is what the women actually alleged happened:
Two comedians said that he asked, but they didn't say yes. They were just kind of shocked and unsure if it was a joke or not. Then he got his dick out. IDK about you, but when some says "they asked first" the unsaid implication is that the other party agreed. But that did not happen.
One woman was not asked at all. She was having a phone conversation with him when he just started telling her his sex fantasies and masturbating. How clever of him to slide in the qualifier that he asked before "showing" anyone his dick. So where is his excuse for having phone sex without asking first?
One woman was asked and said yes, because she felt like she had to say yes.
One woman was asked and said no.
Then there is this line:
The power I had over these women is that they admired me. And I wielded that power irresponsibly.
Ummm no? The power he had was that he was an influential and high profile comedian in the industry. The power he had was the ability to make or break their careers (which, btw, he did). He is painting himself as some poor shmuck who just didn't realise how admired he was.
I also took advantage of the fact that I was widely admired in my and their community, which disabled them from sharing their story and brought hardship to them when they tried because people who look up to me didn’t want to hear it. I didn’t think that I was doing any of that because my position allowed me not to think about it.
This gives the impression that it was just all those fans who looked up to him who silenced the women, while he just stood idly by. But the reality is, he was publicly asked about the sexual assault allegations several times before the NYT report, and every time he dismissed them. It wasn't just his community of fans that shut down the allegations. It was him.
Also, it is absurd that he took an apology as an opportunity brag. I count five times in that statement where he refers to how much everyone 'admires' or 'looks up' to him.
It isn't bullying to call someone out on their shit. He got away with his shit for decades, it won't kill him to finally be pulled up for it.
I guess I feel like I'd be more willing to give him the benefit of the doubt if his return to comedy had some semblance of self-awareness, instead of tone-deaf transphobia and mocking gun violence...
My question is, if these "bad apologies" are actually going through a PR and or legal team and they are removing any culpable statements from the apologies which then water them down. Mostly...
My question is, if these "bad apologies" are actually going through a PR and or legal team and they are removing any culpable statements from the apologies which then water them down.
Mostly because I don't believe a high paid Hollywood star is not having a PR and legal team go through there apologies, but it also explains why they are so "bad" or water down.
This is not the "cancel culture" people are actually worried about. While celebrity will always bring the most attention to a problem it's not the one the general populous cares about. It is the person in the less powerful position, that causes a general unease when we hear about these things.
Good segment.
Really glad he brought up the lack of an apology, because that's precisely what's been missing from the ones I'd ever even consider forgiving in the slightest: Louis CK, Kevin Spacey, Kevin Hart, Aziz Ansari. The fact that they haven't, and the fact they're doubling down on not apologizing just really solidifies them as being the shitty person that they are.
...also I really wish this guy in the vid would fix the fucking camera lens/soft focus, it drives me bananas!
Also I guess I didn't see enough George Carlin/I never cared for him when I was a teen, but I liked this resurfacing bit on baby boomers.
Am I missing something? All of the people you listed have apologized.
Oh I could totally be missing something on my end/haven't kept up. IIRC Louis CK got heat on account he never said he was sorry, the closest he got was "I am remorseful." Aziz has more or less said sorry you felt that way, and doesn't understand why what he did was wrong. Spacey said "if I did that, sorry" and deflected into his announcement. And Kevin Hart, as the video points out, refuses to apologize.
Again I could totally be missing something, so if there's updates on any of those, by all means let me know.
The problem is that the apology does not come across as sincere at all.
It is subtle, but if you have actually paid attention to the facts of the case, the "apology" just serves to minimise/give a deceptive account of what he actually did.
For example:
Thanks (in part) to this line, I still see people spreading the myth that he 'always got consent first'. Here is what the women actually alleged happened:
Then there is this line:
Ummm no? The power he had was that he was an influential and high profile comedian in the industry. The power he had was the ability to make or break their careers (which, btw, he did). He is painting himself as some poor shmuck who just didn't realise how admired he was.
This gives the impression that it was just all those fans who looked up to him who silenced the women, while he just stood idly by. But the reality is, he was publicly asked about the sexual assault allegations several times before the NYT report, and every time he dismissed them. It wasn't just his community of fans that shut down the allegations. It was him.
Also, it is absurd that he took an apology as an opportunity brag. I count five times in that statement where he refers to how much everyone 'admires' or 'looks up' to him.
It isn't bullying to call someone out on their shit. He got away with his shit for decades, it won't kill him to finally be pulled up for it.
I guess I feel like I'd be more willing to give him the benefit of the doubt if his return to comedy had some semblance of self-awareness, instead of tone-deaf transphobia and mocking gun violence activists.
My question is, if these "bad apologies" are actually going through a PR and or legal team and they are removing any culpable statements from the apologies which then water them down.
Mostly because I don't believe a high paid Hollywood star is not having a PR and legal team go through there apologies, but it also explains why they are so "bad" or water down.