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Former US President Donald Trump acknowledges he was told 2020 election lies were false in wide-ranging interview

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  1. GravySleeve
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    Well an admission of guilt on record should theoretically make prosecution easy I would think.

    Well an admission of guilt on record should theoretically make prosecution easy I would think.

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  2. Amun
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    Kate Sullivan “It was my decision, but I listened to some people,” Trump said.

    Kate Sullivan


    “It was my decision, but I listened to some people,” Trump said.

    Former President Donald Trump acknowledged in a new interview that, despite receiving counsel from multiple people that the 2020 election was not stolen, he pushed ahead anyway with his false claims to try and overturn the results.

    The former president said he didn’t listen to his attorneys who told him he had lost the election because he didn’t respect them and that he “respected many others that said the election was rigged.”

    “I was listening to different people, and when I added it all up, the election was rigged,” Trump told NBC’s Kristen Welker.

    He added, “You know who I listen to? Myself. I saw what happened.”

    “But the defendant disseminated them anyway – to make his knowingly false claims appear legitimate, create an intense atmosphere of mistrust and anger, and erode public faith in the administration of the election,” the indictment reads.

    “That evidence has led to an overriding and straightforward conclusion: the central cause of January 6th was one man, former President Donald Trump, whom many others followed. None of the events of January 6th would have happened without him,” the committee’s final report states.

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      Jordan117
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      His state of mind is a red herring. Even if he truly believed he won, it gave him no legal right to engage in the extralegal hijacking of the vote he and his goons attempted. The judicial system...

      His state of mind is a red herring. Even if he truly believed he won, it gave him no legal right to engage in the extralegal hijacking of the vote he and his goons attempted. The judicial system was his option, and in court under oath the MAGA bullshitters quailed or were smacked down every time.

      It's like trying to commit check fraud and then defending yourself by saying you really, truly believe your victim is a reptiloid who stole the money from you first.

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        Edit: I got bad Reddit from the lack of context to my post and my main points. I don't think you took time to read my post and instead jumped to shut my questions down, well intended or not. I'm...

        Edit: I got bad Reddit from the lack of context to my post and my main points. I don't think you took time to read my post and instead jumped to shut my questions down, well intended or not. I'm just going to ignore this post and point over to this post on noise

        1. Jordan117
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          ?? Your deleted comment said something about being "scared" of him using this "I believed it was stolen" defense because it might be hard (or I guess undesirable?) for the state to have to prove...

          ??

          Your deleted comment said something about being "scared" of him using this "I believed it was stolen" defense because it might be hard (or I guess undesirable?) for the state to have to prove that he "really" believed what his advisors told him about the election being legit. I just don't think that's a key or even relevant part of the legal case against him -- his actions are criminal regardless. Trump's blathering about state of mind is just him trying to push the debate onto more slippery and subjective grounds.

          Not sure what context I'm missing here, but if you're concerned about signal:noise then deleting parent comments and then chastising people for responding wrong without clarifying what the problem is (while also making a weirdly dismissive allusion to Reddit) is a pretty noisy reaction -- a good example, ironically, of the type of noise described in that post.

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