Funny how you defined SJWs then... What separates the "bad sjws" from the "good sjws"? You offer a definition of one only one type, and I can only assume that definition refers to the "bad" ones.
Funny how you defined SJWs then...
A sjw is a feminist that thinks that feminism stands for dominance rather then equality
What separates the "bad sjws" from the "good sjws"? You offer a definition of one only one type, and I can only assume that definition refers to the "bad" ones.
I just means a person with identifies with their gender. They made up a special term for it just to cause confusion and have something to use when they want to be derogatory or say someone is...
I just means a person with identifies with their gender. They made up a special term for it just to cause confusion and have something to use when they want to be derogatory or say someone is being insensitive in a dismissive way when they aren't. What I mean is, they invented a way to label people who identify how they were born as means to have a box to use against them. They want to lump them all together to strengthen things they say and do regarding them. By just letting them be and not having a term, "cis" people get to be the baseline and trans people don't find that fair. That is how I always see it used anyway..
Any time I see it used it's like, 'You and your cis gender views!" They use it to build this kind of wall and lump all of us into a group that can be stereotyped. Cis people don't really have a group around them and people just see them as individuals and don't perceive them any certain way. Giving them a label puts them into a box basically.
It's basically because trans people don't feel like "cis" people should just get to not have a term and be the default. They don't want to refer to "cis" people as "normal." They want people who identify as their gender to be i na box just like they feel they are.
This is assuming a lot about the motivations of the people who started using it. 'Cis', as a prefix, just means 'Not Trans', i.e., someone who identifies as the gender they were assigned at birth....
They made up a special term for it just to cause confusion and have something to use when they want to be derogatory or say someone is being insensitive in a dismissive way when they aren't.
This is assuming a lot about the motivations of the people who started using it. 'Cis', as a prefix, just means 'Not Trans', i.e., someone who identifies as the gender they were assigned at birth. It's a useful thing to have in conversations about transgender folks so we have a way to talk about people who aren't trans without relying on problematic terms like 'normal' that end up dehumanizing people who are trans.
I'm going to respond to your edit of your previous comment as well. I understand that you are making the correct point that it is used because people do not want to refer to people who are not...
It's basically because trans people don't feel like "cis" people should just get to not have a term and be the default. They don't want to refer to "cis" people as "normal." They want people who identify as their gender to be i na box just like they feel they are.
I'm going to respond to your edit of your previous comment as well. I understand that you are making the correct point that it is used because people do not want to refer to people who are not trans as 'normal', but I think your assumptions about why people do not want to use the word 'normal' are flawed.
The concepts of "Default" and "Normal" are not useful in educated discussions, as defaults and norms can change with time and societal context. 'Cis' is used in chemistry, as well as other disciplines. Trans people did not invent 'Cis' as a way to put people in a box, it is simply a way to refer to people who are not trans. Just as you would not want to refer to directions as 'Left' and 'Not-Left', but instead you would want to use 'Left' and 'Right'. What does Not Left mean? Up? Down? The other way? It's incredibly important that we use specific terminology so that we can make sure we are talking about the same thing.
We can just say they identify with the gender they were born into too though. I just feel like we had trans people being labeled and set apart group wise, so they started calling people cis so...
We can just say they identify with the gender they were born into too though. I just feel like we had trans people being labeled and set apart group wise, so they started calling people cis so they had a group to. I think people felt that everyone saw it as trans and everyone else. So they gave everyone else a label to "even" the playing field.
It's almost like how curvy used to mean a woman with curves or an hour glass figure. Then people took that term and started using it to refer to overweight people to flip the perception.
This is wordy and unwieldy. Try using "people who identify with the gender they were assigned at birth" more than twice in a conversation, and you'll see why it's good to use one word instead of...
We can just say they identify with the gender they were born into too though
This is wordy and unwieldy. Try using "people who identify with the gender they were assigned at birth" more than twice in a conversation, and you'll see why it's good to use one word instead of eleven.
I just feel like we had trans people being labeled and set apart group wise, so they started calling people cis so they had a group to.
You are correct, in that the use of cis in terms of gender did come about so discussions about gender issues could specify people who identify as the gender they were assigned at birth. However, like I said earlier, it wasn't to 'even the playing field', it was simply so there could be a word that was specific. I think you are assuming ulterior motives where none exist.
Ok, thanks. From wikipedia - Cisgender has its origin in the Latin-derived prefix cis-, meaning "on this side of", which means the opposite of trans-, meaning "across from" or "on the other side...
Ok, thanks.
From wikipedia - Cisgender has its origin in the Latin-derived prefix cis-, meaning "on this side of", which means the opposite of trans-, meaning "across from" or "on the other side of". This usage can be seen in the cis–trans distinction in chemistry, the cis–trans or complementation test in genetics, in Ciscaucasia (from the Russian perspective), in the ancient Roman term Cisalpine Gaul (i.e., "Gaul on this side of the Alps"), and more recently, Cisjordan, as distinguished from Transjordan. In the case of gender, cis- describes the alignment of gender identity with assigned sex.[6]
I can't wait until we get a report button
Funny how you defined SJWs then...
What separates the "bad sjws" from the "good sjws"? You offer a definition of one only one type, and I can only assume that definition refers to the "bad" ones.
We were talking about moderation of low-effort content last week. This will be a prime example
Could you define (with a definition, rather than by giving examples) what an SJW is?
What's cis?
I just means a person with identifies with their gender.
They made up a special term for it just to cause confusion and have something to use when they want to be derogatory or say someone is being insensitive in a dismissive way when they aren't.What I mean is, they invented a way to label people who identify how they were born as means to have a box to use against them. They want to lump them all together to strengthen things they say and do regarding them. By just letting them be and not having a term, "cis" people get to be the baseline and trans people don't find that fair. That is how I always see it used anyway..Any time I see it used it's like, 'You and your cis gender views!" They use it to build this kind of wall and lump all of us into a group that can be stereotyped. Cis people don't really have a group around them and people just see them as individuals and don't perceive them any certain way. Giving them a label puts them into a box basically.
It's basically because trans people don't feel like "cis" people should just get to not have a term and be the default. They don't want to refer to "cis" people as "normal." They want people who identify as their gender to be i na box just like they feel they are.
This is assuming a lot about the motivations of the people who started using it. 'Cis', as a prefix, just means 'Not Trans', i.e., someone who identifies as the gender they were assigned at birth. It's a useful thing to have in conversations about transgender folks so we have a way to talk about people who aren't trans without relying on problematic terms like 'normal' that end up dehumanizing people who are trans.
This was my exact point... They don't want to label it "normal" so they call it something else. That's why the term exists.
I'm going to respond to your edit of your previous comment as well. I understand that you are making the correct point that it is used because people do not want to refer to people who are not trans as 'normal', but I think your assumptions about why people do not want to use the word 'normal' are flawed.
The concepts of "Default" and "Normal" are not useful in educated discussions, as defaults and norms can change with time and societal context. 'Cis' is used in chemistry, as well as other disciplines. Trans people did not invent 'Cis' as a way to put people in a box, it is simply a way to refer to people who are not trans. Just as you would not want to refer to directions as 'Left' and 'Not-Left', but instead you would want to use 'Left' and 'Right'. What does Not Left mean? Up? Down? The other way? It's incredibly important that we use specific terminology so that we can make sure we are talking about the same thing.
We can just say they identify with the gender they were born into too though. I just feel like we had trans people being labeled and set apart group wise, so they started calling people cis so they had a group to. I think people felt that everyone saw it as trans and everyone else. So they gave everyone else a label to "even" the playing field.
It's almost like how curvy used to mean a woman with curves or an hour glass figure. Then people took that term and started using it to refer to overweight people to flip the perception.
This is wordy and unwieldy. Try using "people who identify with the gender they were assigned at birth" more than twice in a conversation, and you'll see why it's good to use one word instead of eleven.
You are correct, in that the use of cis in terms of gender did come about so discussions about gender issues could specify people who identify as the gender they were assigned at birth. However, like I said earlier, it wasn't to 'even the playing field', it was simply so there could be a word that was specific. I think you are assuming ulterior motives where none exist.
No. They wanted the term "cis" to be confusing and sound far from what it means." I don't know. I'll just agree to disagree.
Ok, thanks.
From wikipedia - Cisgender has its origin in the Latin-derived prefix cis-, meaning "on this side of", which means the opposite of trans-, meaning "across from" or "on the other side of". This usage can be seen in the cis–trans distinction in chemistry, the cis–trans or complementation test in genetics, in Ciscaucasia (from the Russian perspective), in the ancient Roman term Cisalpine Gaul (i.e., "Gaul on this side of the Alps"), and more recently, Cisjordan, as distinguished from Transjordan. In the case of gender, cis- describes the alignment of gender identity with assigned sex.[6]
They don't want to label people who identify as their gender as "normal" so they call it something else.
People who aren't transgender.
Cis people are people who have the gender they are assigned at birth