Meta-comment/question: How do people feel about using reddit conventions like that for tags on Tildes? Personally I don't see a problem with them and think they are actually incredibly helpful...
Meta-comment/question:
How do people feel about using reddit conventions like that for tags on Tildes? Personally I don't see a problem with them and think they are actually incredibly helpful when trying to locate more niche topics via their tags here. And I would even consider adding not just "Internet is Beautiful" but also "Deep Into YouTube" as a tag for this particular topic too, given the random videos this site shows you are intentionally low-view count ones.
I don't want us to import conventions from other sites. I'd prefer we create our own conventions, based on what we do here. We're not here to copy Reddit or HackerNews or any other of those sites....
I don't want us to import conventions from other sites. I'd prefer we create our own conventions, based on what we do here. We're not here to copy Reddit or HackerNews or any other of those sites. We're here to make something new.
I understand that desire, wanting to differentiate ourselves and not just copy other aggregators, but are not new conventions invariably derived from, based on or copied from old ones anyways?...
I understand that desire, wanting to differentiate ourselves and not just copy other aggregators, but are not new conventions invariably derived from, based on or copied from old ones anyways? Nothing like that is ever truly unique or created in a complete vacuum, and refusing to use the already well established, well known convention (i.e. being different just for the sake of being different) only leads to confusion.
"Internet is Beautiful" is a pretty apt description for a lot of disparate but similarly evocative content, and the fact that it originally comes from reddit does not diminish the utility of using it similarly here, IMO.
Perhaps apt wasn't the exact right word, but "Internet is Beautiful" is itself a rather beautiful and uplifting description for that sort of content... whereas "neat site" is not. :P "neat site"...
Perhaps apt wasn't the exact right word, but "Internet is Beautiful" is itself a rather beautiful and uplifting description for that sort of content... whereas "neat site" is not. :P "neat site" is also not already established in the lexicon like "internet is beautiful" is.
Just FYI: if we were to use the "internet is beautiful" phrase here... this particular post wouldn't be one that I would consider tagging as "internet is beautiful". That phrase evokes something...
Just FYI: if we were to use the "internet is beautiful" phrase here... this particular post wouldn't be one that I would consider tagging as "internet is beautiful". That phrase evokes something different for me than a random selection of bits from various YouTube videos.
I'm inclined to somewhat agree, but mainly because this feels like it falls into fluff territory, and much of what is on /r/InternetIsBeautiful would as well. If I had to imagine what I'd most...
I'm inclined to somewhat agree, but mainly because this feels like it falls into fluff territory, and much of what is on /r/InternetIsBeautiful would as well.
If I had to imagine what I'd most like to see it as for Tildes, it would be times where people over the internet come together to make something great or for a good cause.
That's a totally fair opinion. I personally think this site is "neat" but doesn't necessarily get to "beautiful" levels either. I was mostly just bringing this meta-topic up because it's a...
That's a totally fair opinion. I personally think this site is "neat" but doesn't necessarily get to "beautiful" levels either. I was mostly just bringing this meta-topic up because it's a discussion worth having, IMO.
Heh, a bit late for that now methinks. But I probably should try to get in the habit of doing that to start from now on, rather than making these off-topic comments in the comments sections of...
Heh, a bit late for that now methinks. But I probably should try to get in the habit of doing that to start from now on, rather than making these off-topic comments in the comments sections of other unrelated topics. :P
I just made a topic related to this before reading back through comments here. I've fallen into the same trap. I do think it's a good idea to start primarily carrying on over in the ~tildes group.
I just made a topic related to this before reading back through comments here. I've fallen into the same trap. I do think it's a good idea to start primarily carrying on over in the ~tildes group.
For me personally, I think it is something to be looked at by a case by case basis. There are plenty of internet culture terms which have bridged platforms before, and so this shared vernacular...
For me personally, I think it is something to be looked at by a case by case basis.
There are plenty of internet culture terms which have bridged platforms before, and so this shared vernacular must come from somewhere - whether reddit, elsewhere, or Tildes-derived. Still, if you look at natural languages, you do also have local idioms as well.
My gut feeling is that things should have simple taxonomy where possible so that it remains the most accessible. I'm thinking specifically about situations such as English not being someone's first language and they may not immediately pick up on slang, puns, etc.
In cases where that either isn't really possible or there's already a common convention that's so widespread it becomes more instinctively descriptive, then I don't see anything wrong with borrowing from other platforms. I do think using such conventions indiscriminately is the wrong way to go though.
I personally don't mind. It's relatable just like thumbs up and "likes" are common now for internet users. We all take bits and pieces from the places we frequent and Reddit is now such a huge...
I personally don't mind. It's relatable just like thumbs up and "likes" are common now for internet users. We all take bits and pieces from the places we frequent and Reddit is now such a huge part of the internet that, like Facebook and Twitter, we use the conventions from there elsewhere and in conversations.
That said, using "oh lord that's Me_IRL" in a spoken sentence once made me hate myself a little.
Very neat, very confusing too. Found so many videos of foreign languages that puzzled me, came across others who were deeply disturbing and others which were so immensely interesting that I had to...
Very neat, very confusing too. Found so many videos of foreign languages that puzzled me, came across others who were deeply disturbing and others which were so immensely interesting that I had to check out the full video.
I think, though, that the 'Astronaut' should have the option of a few exposure settings. Like, pick your latitude or how many seconds you want to pass before the next video takes over.
This is so interesting from an anthropological stand point (not that I'm an anthropologist). It's really what old youtube emblemized, people putting sharing personal moments with each other just...
This is so interesting from an anthropological stand point (not that I'm an anthropologist). It's really what old youtube emblemized, people putting sharing personal moments with each other just because its a human thing to do, not for profit or fame. I miss when the most popular videos were just silly things that happened in people's lives that they recorded.
From asking someone for dihydrogen monoxide straight to a halal slaughtering of ram. Mostly it seemed to just be amateur sporting contests or zoos though. Really quite fascinating, thank you for...
From asking someone for dihydrogen monoxide straight to a halal slaughtering of ram. Mostly it seemed to just be amateur sporting contests or zoos though. Really quite fascinating, thank you for posting.
This site is neat! It reminds me of something I'd find on /r/InternetIsBeautiful. Maybe there should be a tag for things like this!
Meta-comment/question:
How do people feel about using reddit conventions like that for tags on Tildes? Personally I don't see a problem with them and think they are actually incredibly helpful when trying to locate more niche topics via their tags here. And I would even consider adding not just "Internet is Beautiful" but also "Deep Into YouTube" as a tag for this particular topic too, given the random videos this site shows you are intentionally low-view count ones.
I don't want us to import conventions from other sites. I'd prefer we create our own conventions, based on what we do here. We're not here to copy Reddit or HackerNews or any other of those sites. We're here to make something new.
I understand that desire, wanting to differentiate ourselves and not just copy other aggregators, but are not new conventions invariably derived from, based on or copied from old ones anyways? Nothing like that is ever truly unique or created in a complete vacuum, and refusing to use the already well established, well known convention (i.e. being different just for the sake of being different) only leads to confusion.
"Internet is Beautiful" is a pretty apt description for a lot of disparate but similarly evocative content, and the fact that it originally comes from reddit does not diminish the utility of using it similarly here, IMO.
I don't think there's anything more apt about "Internet is Beautiful" than anything else like "neat site" (I'm not suggesting we use "neat site").
Perhaps apt wasn't the exact right word, but "Internet is Beautiful" is itself a rather beautiful and uplifting description for that sort of content... whereas "neat site" is not. :P "neat site" is also not already established in the lexicon like "internet is beautiful" is.
Just FYI: if we were to use the "internet is beautiful" phrase here... this particular post wouldn't be one that I would consider tagging as "internet is beautiful". That phrase evokes something different for me than a random selection of bits from various YouTube videos.
I'm inclined to somewhat agree, but mainly because this feels like it falls into fluff territory, and much of what is on /r/InternetIsBeautiful would as well.
If I had to imagine what I'd most like to see it as for Tildes, it would be times where people over the internet come together to make something great or for a good cause.
That's a good point. I agree.
That's a totally fair opinion. I personally think this site is "neat" but doesn't necessarily get to "beautiful" levels either. I was mostly just bringing this meta-topic up because it's a discussion worth having, IMO.
Yes. Maybe start something in ~tildes?
Heh, a bit late for that now methinks. But I probably should try to get in the habit of doing that to start from now on, rather than making these off-topic comments in the comments sections of other unrelated topics. :P
I just made a topic related to this before reading back through comments here. I've fallen into the same trap. I do think it's a good idea to start primarily carrying on over in the ~tildes group.
For me personally, I think it is something to be looked at by a case by case basis.
There are plenty of internet culture terms which have bridged platforms before, and so this shared vernacular must come from somewhere - whether reddit, elsewhere, or Tildes-derived. Still, if you look at natural languages, you do also have local idioms as well.
My gut feeling is that things should have simple taxonomy where possible so that it remains the most accessible. I'm thinking specifically about situations such as English not being someone's first language and they may not immediately pick up on slang, puns, etc.
In cases where that either isn't really possible or there's already a common convention that's so widespread it becomes more instinctively descriptive, then I don't see anything wrong with borrowing from other platforms. I do think using such conventions indiscriminately is the wrong way to go though.
I personally don't mind. It's relatable just like thumbs up and "likes" are common now for internet users. We all take bits and pieces from the places we frequent and Reddit is now such a huge part of the internet that, like Facebook and Twitter, we use the conventions from there elsewhere and in conversations.
That said, using "oh lord that's Me_IRL" in a spoken sentence once made me hate myself a little.
Very neat, very confusing too. Found so many videos of foreign languages that puzzled me, came across others who were deeply disturbing and others which were so immensely interesting that I had to check out the full video.
I think, though, that the 'Astronaut' should have the option of a few exposure settings. Like, pick your latitude or how many seconds you want to pass before the next video takes over.
Super smooth player though.
This is so interesting from an anthropological stand point (not that I'm an anthropologist). It's really what old youtube emblemized, people putting sharing personal moments with each other just because its a human thing to do, not for profit or fame. I miss when the most popular videos were just silly things that happened in people's lives that they recorded.
From asking someone for dihydrogen monoxide straight to a halal slaughtering of ram. Mostly it seemed to just be amateur sporting contests or zoos though. Really quite fascinating, thank you for posting.