23 votes

We Need to Get Ready for GamerGate Politicians

14 comments

  1. [6]
    dubteedub
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    And now Sargon of Akkad / Carl Benjamin is calling a woman MP a bitch and doubling down on his comments talking about how he would not rape them. Ukip candidate brands Labour MP Jess Phillips a...

    And now Sargon of Akkad / Carl Benjamin is calling a woman MP a bitch and doubling down on his comments talking about how he would not rape them.

    Ukip candidate brands Labour MP Jess Phillips a 'b*tch' and doubles down on rape comments at chaotic campaign launch

    In comments defended as "free speech" by Ukip leader Gerard Batten, MEP hopeful Carl Benjamin doubled down on a tweet sent in 2016 where he said he “wouldn’t even rape” Labour MP Jess Phillips.

    “I said ‘I wouldn’t even...’. That’s not a threat, it’s actually just offensive," he told reporters.
    “I’m not going to be apologising for my crimes against political correctness. I hate political correctness."
    “If a woman is being a giant bitch and laughing about male suicide I’m going to be a giant dick back to her. Any questions?”

    It is unclear what comments about male suicide he was referring to.

    I really dont see any redeeming qualities in this man.

    13 votes
    1. Grawlix
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      The "free speech" defense in this is so incredibly stupid. It completely gives up on defending the meaning of the statement itself, and just says "it's not illegal." Okay, great. You may as well...

      The "free speech" defense in this is so incredibly stupid. It completely gives up on defending the meaning of the statement itself, and just says "it's not illegal." Okay, great. You may as well defend it on the grounds of grammatical correctness.

      And it's still a disgusting thing to say. You can't just act like an asshole, then turn around and act like the people you bothered are the real assholes for calling you an asshole, because you were intentionally being an asshole.

      I mean, I guess technically you can, and that's good enough for Sargon et al.

      12 votes
    2. [4]
      moocow1452
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      I guess he's doing a good job of representing his particular corner of the internet and their worldviews. How on earth does someone get kicked of Patreon and Twitter, then get invited into a major...

      I guess he's doing a good job of representing his particular corner of the internet and their worldviews.

      How on earth does someone get kicked of Patreon and Twitter, then get invited into a major British Political Party? Is their recruitment methodology find someone on Youtube who's local, has an audience and doesn't apologize for their shitty opinions? Is this going to be a thing now, the podcast to politics pipeline?

      6 votes
      1. [3]
        dubteedub
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        UKIP really isnt that major of a political party in the UK anymore. Their long time leader Nigel Farange left the party back in December, along with several other MPs in recent months. It looks...

        UKIP really isnt that major of a political party in the UK anymore.

        Their long time leader Nigel Farange left the party back in December, along with several other MPs in recent months.

        It looks like most of the main players have formed a new party, the "Brexit Party" and so the only folks that are left are the insane far-right anti-Muslim bigots and hateful internet personalities like Carl.

        7 votes
        1. moocow1452
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          I'd say that a party to ensure the completion of an impending event that will see itself to completion within the year is a weird thing to base a party around, but all of our grassroots parties in...

          I'd say that a party to ensure the completion of an impending event that will see itself to completion within the year is a weird thing to base a party around, but all of our grassroots parties in the states boil down to "Eff you, I won't do what you tell me, and that's why you should put me in charge" until they're aquihired by the people in charge. So I guess I don't get politics.

          2 votes
        2. alyaza
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          in actual electoral politics within the UK, this is true because UKIP gets fucked by the FPTP system. however, with european elections (which is what sargon is standing in), delegation is done...

          UKIP really isnt that major of a political party in the UK anymore.

          in actual electoral politics within the UK, this is true because UKIP gets fucked by the FPTP system. however, with european elections (which is what sargon is standing in), delegation is done using closed-list proportional representation by d'hondt method, so UKIP is likely to do at least well enough to continue to win seats in the european parliament. we have a bit of polling which suggests the 26% of votes that went to UKIP in the 2014 elections basically just gets split between them and farage's Brexit Party, which suggests they should pick up somewhere between 5 and 10 seats, depending on the distribution of their votes.

          2 votes
  2. [8]
    NeoTheFox
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    I think it's fair to link Carl's response to a very similar article from BuzzFeed, where most of the same bullet points about him is addressed. If you have read the article I suggest you hear his...

    I think it's fair to link Carl's response to a very similar article from BuzzFeed, where most of the same bullet points about him is addressed. If you have read the article I suggest you hear his side of the story.

    2 votes
    1. dubteedub
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      Frankly, after all of his islamophobic rants, gamergate nonsense, and general asshatery, I dont really care what he has to say about all this. Reddit just quarantined his sub this morning and I...

      Frankly, after all of his islamophobic rants, gamergate nonsense, and general asshatery, I dont really care what he has to say about all this.

      Reddit just quarantined his sub this morning and I could not be more pleased.

      Just this weekSargonn Invited Supporters To A Gaming Community That Has Chatrooms Filled With White Supremacist And Anti-Semitic Content.

      He was also kicked off of Patreon for a slur filled online stream back in December.

      “See, look, look, this is what I mean about the chat, I just can’t be bothered to deal with people who treat me like this, it’s really annoying,” he complained. “You are acting like a bunch of niggers, just so you know. You act like white niggers.”

      “You understand I’m a person, don’t you?” Benjamin whined after being called an “upper class twat.” “You guys understand that I am a person?” One chatroom user compared his reaction to that of Anita Sarkeesian — by far Benjamin’s favorite harassment target — causing him to dismiss alt-righters as “faggots.”

      And he once again admonished them for not behaving how white people are supposed to behave: “Maybe you’re just acting like a nigger, mate. Have you considered that? You think white people act like this? White people are meant to be polite and respectful to one another.” This, of course, isn’t a shocking revelation for anyone who’s paid attention to this garbage person’s career.

      Carl Benjamin Drops The N-Word While Ranting About The Alt-Right

      The last thing I want is for Carl to have any more power or influence than he already does.

      33 votes
    2. [2]
      alyaza
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      i take sargon's word about his intentions about as genuinely as i take richard spencer's which is to say that 95% of the time it's deflectionary bullshit about how I WASN'T A NAZI UNTIL YOU MADE...

      i take sargon's word about his intentions about as genuinely as i take richard spencer's which is to say that 95% of the time it's deflectionary bullshit about how I WASN'T A NAZI UNTIL YOU MADE ME A NAZI, LEFTISTS!, and this is coming from someone who was a sargon fan at one point (and also fell out of watching sargon even back when i was still in reactionary circles because he is so full of shit most of the time)

      24 votes
      1. dubteedub
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        He claimed he originally joined the far right neo-nazi tied UKIP like a year ago as a joke, and yet now hes running for EU Parliament as a UKIP MEP....

        He claimed he originally joined the far right neo-nazi tied UKIP like a year ago as a joke, and yet now hes running for EU Parliament as a UKIP MEP.

        https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2018/jun/25/ukip-welcomes-social-media-activists-linked-to-alt-right-into-party

        All Sargon does is lie, obfuscate, and bait outrage over non issues.

        19 votes
    3. frozenplums
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      How are you still falling for this? Carl is not acting in good faith

      How are you still falling for this? Carl is not acting in good faith

      23 votes
    4. [3]
      emnii
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      I'd really rather not give Youtube a reason to recommend more of his videos (or anyone like him) to me. Do you have a transcript available?

      I'd really rather not give Youtube a reason to recommend more of his videos (or anyone like him) to me. Do you have a transcript available?

      16 votes
      1. [2]
        gco
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        You can always open it on a private browser window.

        You can always open it on a private browser window.

        1 vote
        1. aphoenix
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          What if I don't want to listen to him, but just want to have a transcript that I can scan for relevant points? It's a lot easier to scan text than it is to scan a video. I'd also prefer not to...

          What if I don't want to listen to him, but just want to have a transcript that I can scan for relevant points? It's a lot easier to scan text than it is to scan a video.

          I'd also prefer not to increase his view count, because views beget views.

          If anyone has a transcript of his "rebuttal", it would be great.

          6 votes