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Die Hard is not a Christmas movie!

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  1. [4]
    knocklessmonster
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    I love Thought Slime, but I've got another, far simpler, even dumb, opinion that sort of circumvents this video: "How I Met Your Mother" made Die Hard a Christmas movie, similarly to how it made...

    I love Thought Slime, but I've got another, far simpler, even dumb, opinion that sort of circumvents this video: "How I Met Your Mother" made Die Hard a Christmas movie, similarly to how it made many people uncomfortable with the word "moist," and other memes that likely spawned with the show.

    I don't doubt they existed somewhere before this one show brought them to the forefront, but the popularity of these memes also seems to track with their appearance in HIMYM.

    Not that I disagree with anything he's saying. There is also definitely a reason the alpha chad Barney Stinson would've pushed the argument so hard, stereotype that he is.

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    1. [3]
      Eric_the_Cerise
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      FWIW, it's just anecdotal, but I've routinely heard the "Die Hard is a Christmas movie" debate long, long before the birth of HIMYM. Honestly, I think the debate predates the Internet itself (or...

      FWIW, it's just anecdotal, but I've routinely heard the "Die Hard is a Christmas movie" debate long, long before the birth of HIMYM. Honestly, I think the debate predates the Internet itself (or at least the reddit-and-Facebook-and-social-media-avalanche that is the modern Internet), as I recall hearing this debate back in the '90s.

      11 votes
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        knocklessmonster
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        No writer is working in a vacuum, so there's likely a reason it was a thing in the show. Anecdotally it wasn't a thing I was aware of before the show, in my admittedly small circle, but after it...

        No writer is working in a vacuum, so there's likely a reason it was a thing in the show.

        Anecdotally it wasn't a thing I was aware of before the show, in my admittedly small circle, but after it came up in the show it seemed to be everywhere, and I didn't meaningfully change the people and groups I interacted with online or in person.

        I will mention that Google Analytics shows a huge uptick for "why is die hard a Christmas movie" around 2010, so there seems to be some sort of point where the notion seems to have caught on.

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        1. HotPants
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          Know your meme puts the first debate to die hard being a christmas in 2007. E.g. The Guardian published an article in 2007. Before that, some guy called Syd Lexia published a review where Die Hard...

          Know your meme puts the first debate to die hard being a christmas in 2007. E.g. The Guardian published an article in 2007.

          Before that, some guy called Syd Lexia published a review where Die Hard was mentioned in the top ten back in 2005.

          (If you are curious about what the web was like back in the late 1990's, browse Syd's website.)

          5 votes
  2. Loire
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    I see we are getting to that point in the "annoying internet cliche opinion" cycle where the annoying counter argument is now beat to death.

    I see we are getting to that point in the "annoying internet cliche opinion" cycle where the annoying counter argument is now beat to death.

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  3. HotPants
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    The most brutally funny review of "Die Hard" is by Hal Hinson

    The most brutally funny review of "Die Hard" is by Hal Hinson

    Willis, who attempts to convey the sadness of a man whose family has fallen apart, struggles to fix the proper expression on his face. (The one he finally settles on isn't appropriate, but it keeps his face busy and we're happy for that.)

    One of the cops, a pencil-pushing sergeant named Al (Reginald Veljohnson), maintains radio contact with McClane, and the maudlin, brother-of-the-badge routines they play out together are about the closest the movie ever comes to character development.

    5 votes