Nice. It seems to work well for Japan, where ticket resale is illegal and typically they check that your ID matches the ticket. A lot of events there use lottery systems, which I'd love to see...
Nice. It seems to work well for Japan, where ticket resale is illegal and typically they check that your ID matches the ticket.
A lot of events there use lottery systems, which I'd love to see spread elsewhere: you put your name in and have an equal chance of being offered a ticket, rather than trying to get in during the first few minutes after sales start.
Two events that come to mind that do this are the Hatsune Miku concerts (unlike their North America tour counterparts, which are subject to TicketMaster and AXS dumpster fires), and the Final Fantasy XIV Fan Fests. The latter also requires an active game subscription for the lottery.
I'm conflicted. I'm all for making scalping difficult (or even illegal) and limiting resale prices, but tying ID to tickets encroaches on privacy. I imagine there's some way to legitimatize resale...
I'm conflicted. I'm all for making scalping difficult (or even illegal) and limiting resale prices, but tying ID to tickets encroaches on privacy. I imagine there's some way to legitimatize resale in the case of regifting, changed plans, emergencies, etc.?
Tickets already have your name on them when you buy them through TM/AXS. The difference is the venue just checks your ID at the gate and verifies the name matches. They need your ID to give you a...
Tickets already have your name on them when you buy them through TM/AXS. The difference is the venue just checks your ID at the gate and verifies the name matches.
They need your ID to give you a wristband for the bar anyway.
So how is it done if I want to give my tickets away to a friend or family? I know that's a pretty common thing to do. Is it easy to transfer those tickets? Is it free?
So how is it done if I want to give my tickets away to a friend or family? I know that's a pretty common thing to do. Is it easy to transfer those tickets? Is it free?
I imagine you wouldn't be able to. Instead, you'd have to cede the ticket back (for partial/whole reimbursement) and let your family member do their own thing. Surely anything else would just be a...
I imagine you wouldn't be able to. Instead, you'd have to cede the ticket back (for partial/whole reimbursement) and let your family member do their own thing. Surely anything else would just be a mechanism abused by the touts that this rule/those ID checks are trying to stop.
It sucks and I'm honestly not sure which system I prefer. On multiple occasions a friend or family member, once even a friend of a friend, has been unable to go to a show very last minute for...
It sucks and I'm honestly not sure which system I prefer. On multiple occasions a friend or family member, once even a friend of a friend, has been unable to go to a show very last minute for perfectly legitimate reasons. They gave their tickets to me for free, or once at a reduced cost, because they just didn't want the ticket to go to waste. It was lovely - it meant I could go on their behalf, take photos or videos, and helped them feel like they still got something out of the show. It feels so harsh to not to allow this to happen.
Another time, I was going with a friend to a concert for somebody I didn't know that well but my friend loved. We both tried to get tickets, and I managed to get one but my friend didn't. The only reason I was going was because my friend loved them and wanted somebody to go with them, so of course I gave them my ticket instead. They went by themselves and had a great time. I realise this problem was partially caused by scalpers, but I can't help but think the solution to scalpers isn't penalising the vast majority of innocent ticketholders.
Totally agreed here, but with the recent Tickermaster/AXS bullshit requiring you use their app, I have sadly decided I am probably never going to be able to go to a concert again unless it is some...
Totally agreed here, but with the recent Tickermaster/AXS bullshit requiring you use their app, I have sadly decided I am probably never going to be able to go to a concert again unless it is some local event that doesn't go through that system.
I know not seeing live events seems trivial in the wake of all the more serious and awful things going on right now, but being able to go to a concert once or twice a year was something I have always loved. And now it is gone due to corporate greed.
Being that I'm about to go to Japan and sumo tickets are notoriously difficult to get because they get bought en masse by resellers where I'm likely going to have to pay 2-3x the ticket price to...
It seems to work well for Japan, where ticket resale is illegal and typically they check that your ID matches the ticket.
Being that I'm about to go to Japan and sumo tickets are notoriously difficult to get because they get bought en masse by resellers where I'm likely going to have to pay 2-3x the ticket price to get one, I can only assume that this system doesn't work or there are some massive loopholes.
I live in Portugal where this is already the law. You are not allowed to resell a ticket for more than the price printed on the ticket (all tickets must have their price on them). It has helped...
I live in Portugal where this is already the law. You are not allowed to resell a ticket for more than the price printed on the ticket (all tickets must have their price on them).
It has helped dramatically when it comes to online platforms. You can always report tickets being sold for more than their face value and it gets taken down. And most people are aware of the law and won't buy your resold ticket if you ask for more than it's worth.
It's not flawless. Tickets still aren't tied to ID so you could resell them on the streets for a higher price and so long as the police doesn't see you nobody will do anything, but at least it curbed the rampant scalping going on online, as it's much harder to run big scalping operations in person.
This was fantastic news! It is odd to see cited the impetus herefor as the recent Oasis uproar, considering that that was caused by Ticketmaster’s predatory dynamic pricing system and not touts,...
This was fantastic news! It is odd to see cited the impetus herefor as the recent Oasis uproar, considering that that was caused by Ticketmaster’s predatory dynamic pricing system and not touts, however this is still a big step, and it will also hit Ticketmaster et al via their own reselling services plus the abolition of astronomical hidden service fees. May the trend continue, laterally and vertically…
We all hope, but charging fees is still allowed to an unknown amount.
it will also hit Ticketmaster et al via their own reselling services plus the abolition of astronomical hidden service fees
We all hope, but charging fees is still allowed to an unknown amount.
Under the plan, which could form part of next year’s King’s speech, anyone selling a ticket will not be allowed to charge more than they paid for it. Resale platforms will be allowed to charge fees on top of that price. These extras will also be limited, to ensure that they can’t be inflated artificially to offset profits forfeited owing to the legislation. The scale of the ceiling on service fees is yet to be determined.
Nice. It seems to work well for Japan, where ticket resale is illegal and typically they check that your ID matches the ticket.
A lot of events there use lottery systems, which I'd love to see spread elsewhere: you put your name in and have an equal chance of being offered a ticket, rather than trying to get in during the first few minutes after sales start.
Two events that come to mind that do this are the Hatsune Miku concerts (unlike their North America tour counterparts, which are subject to TicketMaster and AXS dumpster fires), and the Final Fantasy XIV Fan Fests. The latter also requires an active game subscription for the lottery.
I'm conflicted. I'm all for making scalping difficult (or even illegal) and limiting resale prices, but tying ID to tickets encroaches on privacy. I imagine there's some way to legitimatize resale in the case of regifting, changed plans, emergencies, etc.?
Tickets already have your name on them when you buy them through TM/AXS. The difference is the venue just checks your ID at the gate and verifies the name matches.
They need your ID to give you a wristband for the bar anyway.
So how is it done if I want to give my tickets away to a friend or family? I know that's a pretty common thing to do. Is it easy to transfer those tickets? Is it free?
I imagine you wouldn't be able to. Instead, you'd have to cede the ticket back (for partial/whole reimbursement) and let your family member do their own thing. Surely anything else would just be a mechanism abused by the touts that this rule/those ID checks are trying to stop.
It sucks and I'm honestly not sure which system I prefer. On multiple occasions a friend or family member, once even a friend of a friend, has been unable to go to a show very last minute for perfectly legitimate reasons. They gave their tickets to me for free, or once at a reduced cost, because they just didn't want the ticket to go to waste. It was lovely - it meant I could go on their behalf, take photos or videos, and helped them feel like they still got something out of the show. It feels so harsh to not to allow this to happen.
Another time, I was going with a friend to a concert for somebody I didn't know that well but my friend loved. We both tried to get tickets, and I managed to get one but my friend didn't. The only reason I was going was because my friend loved them and wanted somebody to go with them, so of course I gave them my ticket instead. They went by themselves and had a great time. I realise this problem was partially caused by scalpers, but I can't help but think the solution to scalpers isn't penalising the vast majority of innocent ticketholders.
Totally agreed here, but with the recent Tickermaster/AXS bullshit requiring you use their app, I have sadly decided I am probably never going to be able to go to a concert again unless it is some local event that doesn't go through that system.
I know not seeing live events seems trivial in the wake of all the more serious and awful things going on right now, but being able to go to a concert once or twice a year was something I have always loved. And now it is gone due to corporate greed.
Being that I'm about to go to Japan and sumo tickets are notoriously difficult to get because they get bought en masse by resellers where I'm likely going to have to pay 2-3x the ticket price to get one, I can only assume that this system doesn't work or there are some massive loopholes.
Or maybe "the system" works fine but just doesn't apply to sumo?
I live in Portugal where this is already the law. You are not allowed to resell a ticket for more than the price printed on the ticket (all tickets must have their price on them).
It has helped dramatically when it comes to online platforms. You can always report tickets being sold for more than their face value and it gets taken down. And most people are aware of the law and won't buy your resold ticket if you ask for more than it's worth.
It's not flawless. Tickets still aren't tied to ID so you could resell them on the streets for a higher price and so long as the police doesn't see you nobody will do anything, but at least it curbed the rampant scalping going on online, as it's much harder to run big scalping operations in person.
Yeah I think this is probably the best compromise between curbing scalping at least a bit without sacrificing much privacy or flexibility.
This was fantastic news! It is odd to see cited the impetus herefor as the recent Oasis uproar, considering that that was caused by Ticketmaster’s predatory dynamic pricing system and not touts, however this is still a big step, and it will also hit Ticketmaster et al via their own reselling services plus the abolition of astronomical hidden service fees. May the trend continue, laterally and vertically…
We all hope, but charging fees is still allowed to an unknown amount.
Nice. What about scalping realreal estate, homes and apartments. Will it also become illegal?