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Weekly megathread for news/updates/discussion of Russian invasion of Ukraine - June 8
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The counter offensive has begun. paywalled? Link from washington post
DAE feel like the news around this is a bit too…cinematic? I expect Ukraine and supporters to deploy pathos to rally support (and I ham hardly immune), but I wish the major press were more responsibly dispassionate. Lots of people are dying, many more suffering severe, life-changing trauma, and the Russian people are as much victims of this as Ukraine. We should not treat this as entertainment.
We'll probably start seeing images in the media in the coming days, but Ukraine attacked towards Tokmak last night, pretty much exactly along the axis that was previous mapped here. It's unclear how far they've gone, I think the best guess is they are just outside of Robotyne.
This is one of the most heavily fortified areas of the front, and they've reportedly taken non-insignificant losses so far (according to the Russians, so we'll see about that, but there are images coming out). Still, any breakthrough attempt is going to incur heavy losses initially, the question is if they can penetrate and how quickly they can.
Given the Ukrainian MoD has released a 80's trailer style video explaining why they should get F-16s, and has released what's basically a videogame style teaser trailer for the counteroffensive itself, I think that expecting everyone to treat the entire war with grace seriousness 24/7 is unreasonable.
Unfortunately they post these to Twitter which makes searching for them difficult but I will try to find them and edit.
As long as the press is simply amplifying sentiments that Ukraine itself is attempting to push, rather than inventing it's own narratives, I don't see a reason to criticize them.
Counteroffensive teaser trailer: https://twitter.com/KyivPost/status/1665314983754842115?t=oAuklz7Xr71Pu5fE9kSZjw&s=19
Still can't find the F-16 one, which is a shame because it's hilarious, but here's another video from the Ukrainian MoD: https://twitter.com/DefenceU/status/1659228602104270849?t=MV14KtVJEq_ZyWTnGzCcRw&s=19
https://www.atlanticcouncil.org/blogs/ukrainealert/how-strong-is-russian-public-support-for-the-invasion-of-ukraine/
Majority support for the war in Russia — I find it hard to see anyone supporting this war from the Russian side as a victim.
Well, fta
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It goes on to say that those that have fled Russia have done little to protest, but many of those no doubt are just trying to survive, amd also have families back in Russia susceptible to harassment or worse.
I don’t doubt there are plenty of Russia’s version of proud boy types who may actually support the war. I do suspect a majority do not, but even if it’s a minority, they have all been subjected to a pretty nasty coercion machine.
Anecdotal, but I’m friends with a lot of Russian ex-pats. They are certainly not subject to any risk from retaliation from Russia while sharing their opinions with me, but there is a lot of support among them for the war.
Yes. Sadly.
I know a few people with ties to Russia and the support is not overwhelming, but a sizeable portion.
Really sad is that these are „tied to Russia“, not Russians.
I don’t engage in discussion, COVID has been a lesson 😕
Radio New Zealand discusses 'the revelation a staff member altered Reuters copy to include pro-Russian sentiment' following a complaint.
Ukrainian man says altered stories on RNZ must be taken seriously
It's alway fascinating when RNZ reports on itself. You get little gems like this:
Russia claims it blew up advanced Ukrainian tank, but video shows its helicopter attacked a tractor (AP News)
June 9, NYT: Battles Rage as Ukraine Tries to Retake Russian-Occupied Territory
The reverse OPEC maneuver
Pricing power in the oil industry is shifting, and will shift more.
https://www.noahpinion.blog/p/the-reverse-opec-maneuver
This is a really interesting take on how the changing demand for oil, and the war in Ukraine (which is why I posted it here), coupled with the dynamics of OPEC countries, are affecting the price of oil now and in the future. I am far from an economist, so I'm not even going to try to summarize this article, but someone posted a very nice summary on Reddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/geopolitics/comments/144sq4p/comment/jnhcsen/ There are a lot of other good comments and opinions in that thread too.
CBC: Trudeau commits $500M more in military aid during surprise visit to Kyiv
Ukraine’s Counteroffensive Begins: Shall the Leopards Break Free?
Putin asserts Ukrainian counteroffensive has begun, while drones strike within Russia
KYIV, Ukraine (AP) — Russian President Vladimir Putin asserted Friday that Ukrainian troops have started a long-expected counteroffensive and were suffering “significant” losses.
Link to AP Article
With Russia's significant attack on the Dnieper River dam that was blown to pieces, honestly not surprised if that's the case.
However Kyiv has not made an official mention of this yet.
Kyiv has not specified whether reservists have been mobilized to the front, but its Western allies have poured firepower, defensive systems, and other military assets and advice into Ukraine, raising the stakes for the expected counteroffensive.
WSJ: Nord Stream Sabotage Probe Turns to Clues Inside Poland [archive.is]
NYT: Ukraine Claims First Gains, if Slight, in Counteroffensive [archive.is]
Now they are claiming to have retaken Storozhove as well.
NYT: Root Canal Forces Biden to Postpone Meeting With NATO Chief
NYT: C.I.A. Told Ukraine Last Summer It Should Not Attack Nord Stream Pipelines