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Comment on Thoughts on propaganda in Fantastic Four in ~movies
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Comment on Thoughts on propaganda in Fantastic Four in ~movies
NoblePath Link ParentI can see that this issue is very important to you. I suspect we both share the core value that peace and mutual respect of all people is very important. I’m sharing my perspective of dismay that...I can see that this issue is very important to you. I suspect we both share the core value that peace and mutual respect of all people is very important.
I’m sharing my perspective of dismay that there are powerful forces, in this case IDF/ultra orthodox zionists and their global supporters, who do not share that value, and maybe utilizing mass media to spread their message.
I’m curious if you think IDF is incapable or unwilling to pursue such measures?
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Comment on Thoughts on propaganda in Fantastic Four in ~movies
NoblePath Link ParentI didn’t make this claim. The over/under representation is merely part of the story. i’m curious, if I had a smoking gun that IDF intelligence inserted the scenes and imagery I find troubling, and...It is absolutely absurd to say that including a character from one minority background is propaganda because other minority backgrounds aren't represented.
I didn’t make this claim. The over/under representation is merely part of the story.
i’m curious, if I had a smoking gun that IDF intelligence inserted the scenes and imagery I find troubling, and also had a hand in keeping out images of Palestinians, would your opinion of this post change?
I don’t know who Shang Li is, but for the record, as much ad I love Donnie Yen I considered his inclusion in Rogue One to be suspect.
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Comment on Thoughts on propaganda in Fantastic Four in ~movies
NoblePath Link ParentI don’t know what “MENA” means, but I infer it means Arabs, Palestinians, Persians and North African folks. I avoid “middle east” because of its eurocentric connotations. My point is that if you...I don’t know what “MENA” means, but I infer it means Arabs, Palestinians, Persians and North African folks. I avoid “middle east” because of its eurocentric connotations.
My point is that if you are employing token ethnicities, you should have tomens from all ethnicities. And if you are going to highlight one or two in particular, it is suspicious if you leave out others that are in conflict with the ones highlighted. Especially if those left out are on the wring end of a power differential. It would be like highlighting the Japanese in an early 20th century mivie, including token S. Koreans, Pacific Islanders, Russiians, and leaving out provincial Chinese. Or in the 70s, highlighting the UK, tokenizing the Scots and Protestant Irish, and leaving out the Catholics. Jackson and the Irkoquois, leaving out the Cherokee. The list goes on.
The distinction is that this film seems to endorse and promote Jewish identity and hinting at an endorsement of orthodox Judaism. Scorcese amd others use Jewish identity to flesh out characters, but in a way that seems far more agnostic.
In a better timeline where there is peace in the Levant, or at least detente and parallel prosperity, this would be a fine thing. But we don’t live in that timeline. -
Comment on Thoughts on propaganda in Fantastic Four in ~movies
NoblePath Link ParentMaybe just reserve judgment until you see the movie. It’s hardly ‘conspiratorial’ in the derogatory sense to suggest corporate media might have an antisocial agenda. It also occurs to me to...Maybe just reserve judgment until you see the movie. It’s hardly ‘conspiratorial’ in the derogatory sense to suggest corporate media might have an antisocial agenda.
It also occurs to me to re-emphasize the beard and its association with Religous Judaiism orthodoxy.
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Comment on Thoughts on propaganda in Fantastic Four in ~movies
NoblePath Link ParentIf there weren’t the awful things happening in the Levant, I might nit have even been triggered. I noticed Russel Crow’s necklace, because I am tuned to religious imagery, but did not conclude the...If there weren’t the awful things happening in the Levant, I might nit have even been triggered. I noticed Russel Crow’s necklace, because I am tuned to religious imagery, but did not conclude the movie (American Gangster, which did an awesome job depicting black folks as very human) was making any statement about Jewish identity or the situation in Palestine. Perhaps it is my own sensitivities-I am close to a Jordanian and associated with a couple Palestinians-but the spotlight on the awesomeness of Jews (and, the current Israeli government notwithstanding, Jews as a whole have done awesome things since at least 700 bce) feels overbearing and loaded. Let me know if you can at least perceive my point of view after seeing the movie.
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Comment on Thoughts on propaganda in Fantastic Four in ~movies
NoblePath Link ParentAhh, on the half moons. FWIW, it’s not just a prop, like Russel Crowe(?) wears in that one cop movie. It’s a spotlighted decoration in a community center.Ahh, on the half moons. FWIW, it’s not just a prop, like Russel Crowe(?) wears in that one cop movie. It’s a spotlighted decoration in a community center.
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Comment on Thoughts on propaganda in Fantastic Four in ~movies
NoblePath Link Parentedited per your comment. You’ll note I nod toward the limitations of “racial” discrimination as well.edited per your comment. You’ll note I nod toward the limitations of “racial” discrimination as well.
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Comment on Thoughts on propaganda in Fantastic Four in ~movies
NoblePath Link ParentI’m not sire what you mean by half moon? But you seem to have misunderstood what I meant by “product placements.” I meant that the Star of David was highlighted the way BMW’s are highlighted in...I’m not sire what you mean by half moon?
But you seem to have misunderstood what I meant by “product placements.” I meant that the Star of David was highlighted the way BMW’s are highlighted in mission impossible movies. They change the lighting and detail in such a way that you almost “have” to see it. My point then is that Jewish identity as a concept is depicted as an endorsement or propagandistic suggestion.
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Comment on Thoughts on propaganda in Fantastic Four in ~movies
NoblePath (edited )Link ParentI don’t know what MENA means, but I’m not saying there was good representation of anyone in the movie. The Jewishness of the Ben character was really overdone, however, in my opinion. As opposed...I don’t know what MENA means, but I’m not saying there was good representation of anyone in the movie.
The Jewishness of the Ben character was really overdone, however, in my opinion. As opposed to the african rep of Black Panther, say. Especially given the complete absence of the representation of any Palestinians or Arab folks.
The Black person was at least in a leadership role.
I do get the show’s origins, but it’s no longer 1958.
I guess I’ll also emphasize the fact that making a commercial product placement style endorsement of Jewish identity in the current context of the Levant smells of the Ultra orthodox bent toward complete Palestenian domination/displacement. I would expect those in the orthodox+ zionist community probably are happy, for sure the ADL, maybe they paid for the placement.
One more thing I’ll add, Scorcese has depicted Jews and highlighted their Jewish identity, but it isn’t anything like this and is agnostic about the community as a whole. Compare John Wick’s depiction, as well as Adam Sandler’s Chaunaukah song.
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Comment on China massively overbuilt high-speed rail, says leading economic geographer in ~transport
NoblePath Link ParentThis is the source of my information, make of it what you will. I will say I got the fare information wrong.This is the source of my information, make of it what you will.
I will say I got the fare information wrong.
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Comment on China massively overbuilt high-speed rail, says leading economic geographer in ~transport
NoblePath LinkNot directly related, but I think we should build more average speed rail. I’m told in Europe that HSR has become affluent only, and that ordinary rail has gone away. The challenge is that many...Not directly related, but I think we should build more average speed rail. I’m told in Europe that HSR has become affluent only, and that ordinary rail has gone away. The challenge is that many smaller towns that were served by rail no longer are, and ticket prices are at business class airplane level for basic hsr service. This pushes less affluent folks onto busses and planes and cars, which diminish the environmental and urban planning advantages of trains, and of course unfairly disadvantages those that are not born to wealth.
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Comment on China massively overbuilt high-speed rail, says leading economic geographer in ~transport
NoblePath Link ParentWe have this problem too, at least in Chicago, where you have to walk a block on the surface to get from Amtrak to rapid transit.And that some HSRs that don't even properly connect to local public transportation infrastructure!
We have this problem too, at least in Chicago, where you have to walk a block on the surface to get from Amtrak to rapid transit.
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Comment on <deleted topic> in ~society
NoblePath Link ParentI’m skeptical, too. And for the record, I was aware on some level that even after the “grab them by the…” comment he was going to win, and knew it for sure a month or so in front if Nov 2016....I’m skeptical, too. And for the record, I was aware on some level that even after the “grab them by the…” comment he was going to win, and knew it for sure a month or so in front if Nov 2016.
What’s going for his downfall here is the degree to which he and his pals made such a big deal if the files. It was a symbol for Trump overthrowing the corrupt elites. But now there is no way he is not lying, whether when making pre election claims or now about the list not existing/his name not being on it.
Everybody knows that the dice are loaded as Leonard Cohen told us, but sometimes the game is so egregious you have to step away from the table.
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Comment on Norway wants to be Europe's carbon dump – aiming to capture carbon dioxide from factories and bury it beneath the North Sea in ~enviro
NoblePath Link ParentTildes is many wonderful things. Lighthearted is too rarely one of them.Tildes is many wonderful things. Lighthearted is too rarely one of them.
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Comment on Norway wants to be Europe's carbon dump – aiming to capture carbon dioxide from factories and bury it beneath the North Sea in ~enviro
NoblePath LinkHow long will it take to become hydrocarbon fuels?How long will it take to become hydrocarbon fuels?
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Comment on Experiences with psychedelics? in ~life
NoblePath Link ParentMore specifically, grounding/centering techniques that don’t involve anything external to you. Breath is a good one, so is listening for the void. Psychedelics can get dark. This can be good...learning some basic meditation
More specifically, grounding/centering techniques that don’t involve anything external to you. Breath is a good one, so is listening for the void.
Psychedelics can get dark. This can be good shadow and trauma work, but it can induce panic and psychosis which sometimes can lead to good work and sometimes not.
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Comment on Experiences with psychedelics? in ~life
NoblePath Link ParentI usually tour my town late xmas day for a similar experience. Both your description and my experience remind me of passages from the Tibetan book of the dead, or the more accessible paraphrase...The darkness and utter lack of people in what was often a busy part of town
I usually tour my town late xmas day for a similar experience.
Both your description and my experience remind me of passages from the Tibetan book of the dead, or the more accessible paraphrase The American book of the dead.
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Comment on I don't really cry. I'm fine. in ~life.men
NoblePath Link ParentTo add to this, my understanding is intro/extro is about how people socialize. Intros prefer fewer and more intimate interactions, extros more numerous and more surface, level, or at least...To add to this, my understanding is intro/extro is about how people socialize. Intros prefer fewer and more intimate interactions, extros more numerous and more surface, level, or at least shorter. Alas that the world seems run by extroverts; I find small talk that persists more than a few minutes very taxing.
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Comment on I don't really cry. I'm fine. in ~life.men
NoblePath Link ParentPersonally, I find crying, and laughing, and most of my other expressions come spontaneously. Because of my trauma background I often laugh when some other expression, often attentive compassion,...Personally, I find crying, and laughing, and most of my other expressions come spontaneously. Because of my trauma background I often laugh when some other expression, often attentive compassion, is called for. Other times I dissociate or suppress. My own journey is toward ever more frequent appropriate expressions-and sensitivity. Still working on appropriate degree however.
I’m not suggesting that anything in the narrative is part of it. it’s the way the star of David was depicted so similarly to corporate logos in product placements (usually cars) in other movies. Also the beard, a style choice favored by orthodox. It’s not just the fact that there is A Star of David, it’s the way it is portrayed.
This doesn’t apply directly to your comment, but this conversation reminds me so much of the covid leak controversy. Folks seemed to struggle with separating certain emotional subjects. In the covid origin study, people couldn’t seem to grasp that it could be true at the same time that the virus accidentally leaked and also was naturally occurring. Here, people seem to struggle that it can all be true at the same time that it’s Awesome the character is Jewish and the film includes subtle pro Israel propaganda.