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US-made M270 and HIMARS hammer targets inside Russia, first cross-border strikes since Joe Biden green light

Posted by KapteinB
Tags: ukraine, russia, usa, politics, war, 2022 russian invasion of ukraine, military, weapons, m270 multiple launch rocket system, m142 himars, geopolitics, democratic party, joe biden, author.stefan korshak, source.kyivpost
https://www.kyivpost.com/post/33713

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Stefan Korshak
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Jun 3 2024
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  1. Deely
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    Ukrainian forces waited less than 24 hours after getting the green light from Washington, London, Paris and Berlin to hammer targets inside Russia with precision-guided munitions fired by top-end made-in-the-USA artillery, according to reports, firing dozens of long-range rocket salvoes across the border.

    Vesti “war correspondent” Evgeniy Poddubniy said in a report aired by the Moscow-controlled channel on June 2 that Ukrainian strike planners had fired multiple missiles at a shopping center in an intentional attack against non-military targets, and although Russian air defenses had intercepted all incoming weapons, falling debris had injured civilians and caused moderate property damage.

    The independent Russian news agency Astra contradicted that Kremlin narrative, reporting on Monday that at least one of the Ukrainian strikes had badly damaged a troop base and heavy weapons storage area in the Korochanskiy district of Belgorod city, injuring three Russian army service personnel and setting “several pieces of military equipment” on fire and destroying them.

    An Iskander-2 surface-to-surface system, a launcher firing a heavy and theoretically nuclear capable missile with a half-ton warhead, was among the major Russian weapons destroyed in the strike on a Russian army base, Astra reported.

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    Raspcoffee
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    Either one of two things will happen, really. Either we'll get WW3. In which case, gg everyone. Unlikely, but quite unsettling. Alternatively, Russia will end up getting their arse kicked even...

    Either one of two things will happen, really.

    Either we'll get WW3. In which case, gg everyone. Unlikely, but quite unsettling.

    Alternatively, Russia will end up getting their arse kicked even more badly. Given the crazy high manpower costs on it's own already and the long straining affects of Western sanctions, demographics collapse already occurring before the war and even before the Covid pandemic, brain drain due to mobilization, and corruption.... Russia will end up just a shadow of its former self, which already is a shadow of its former self.

    Whether Ukraine will win is still not certain, and an Ukrainian defeat would be a dark day. But Russia has already lost. The question is when and how they'll pay the price.

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    1. [3]
      apolz
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      I wish that were true. Unfortunately Russia is still advancing. And there's of course the risk of "Trump ending the war in 24 hours" - meaning stopping US military aid to Ukraine. Russia's...

      I wish that were true. Unfortunately Russia is still advancing. And there's of course the risk of "Trump ending the war in 24 hours" - meaning stopping US military aid to Ukraine.

      Russia's military performance has been pathetic at the individual infantryman and the small unit level, but that's always been true. This is how they won on the Eastern Front of WW2.

      The war in Ukraine is fundamentally down to Western support. If we drop it, they will lose. Saying that Russia already lost isn't helpful, it breeds complacency.

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      1. Raspcoffee
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        That's a fair assessment. To clarify, we should absolutely keep sending arms to Ukraine. And Russia is a threat, even if its inner workings are getting cracked down. To rephrase my former...

        That's a fair assessment. To clarify, we should absolutely keep sending arms to Ukraine. And Russia is a threat, even if its inner workings are getting cracked down.

        The war in Ukraine is fundamentally down to Western support. If we drop it, they will lose. Saying that Russia already lost isn't helpful, it breeds complacency.

        To rephrase my former statement then, Russia has no future no matter how the war ends. However, it can take down entire countries with it.

        Russia's military performance has been pathetic at the individual infantryman and the small unit level, but that's always been true. This is how they won on the Eastern Front of WW2.

        There's one major difference this time around though, and that's the fact that Russia's population growth was already halting before the war. Not nearly as bad as some in East-Asia, but Covid and this war is making it worse, fast.

        That's not to say it may necessary be a good thing though. Russia may well end up destabilising internally as a result. The consequences of that could be very ugly.

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      2. CptBluebear
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        You should see the level of "advancing" the Russians have been doing. It's a pitiful amount of meters they've managed to take. While troubling, it's very minimal and mostly at the regions where...

        You should see the level of "advancing" the Russians have been doing. It's a pitiful amount of meters they've managed to take. While troubling, it's very minimal and mostly at the regions where they could freely lob missiles from across the border without consequence. Until now.

        5 votes