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Bernie-backed Andrew Gillum wins Florida gubernatorial primary in upset.

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  1. [2]
    Amarok
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    Turnout very nearly doubled over past election maximums. In a nutshell, that's why this happens. All the gerrymandering and dirty politics in the world aren't able to hold back a turnout boost of...

    Turnout very nearly doubled over past election maximums.

    In a nutshell, that's why this happens. All the gerrymandering and dirty politics in the world aren't able to hold back a turnout boost of larger than 10-15% (and this was almost 50%). In fact, gerrymandering tends to backfire and have the opposite effect when turnout is this high, since it ends up weakening the strongest districts to shore up support in nearby districts. That makes the strongest districts vulnerable when there's a massive turnout spike that breaks past the expected margins.

    If turnout stays at this level through November, it's going to be a bloodbath for establishment politicians in both parties. It's one thing to beat the republicans right now - thanks to Trump pissing off everyone with ears they are sitting ducks even in deep red areas. That's easy pickings. It's quite another for outsider Democrats to beat the establishment Democrats so easily and so quickly. That might get us some real change.

    16 votes
    1. dubteedub
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      The Florida Democrats announced on Twitter that Democratic primary turn-out has not been this high in Florida since 1976. https://twitter.com/FlaDems/status/1034643532605206528

      The Florida Democrats announced on Twitter that Democratic primary turn-out has not been this high in Florida since 1976.

      https://twitter.com/FlaDems/status/1034643532605206528

      5 votes
  2. spit-evil-olive-tips
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    There's also a big potential wildcard in this race, which is all of the Puerto Ricans who moved to Florida after Hurricane Maria. This is the first general election since that happened. They are...

    There's also a big potential wildcard in this race, which is all of the Puerto Ricans who moved to Florida after Hurricane Maria.

    This is the first general election since that happened. They are of course American citizens, so they can register to vote as soon as they move to the mainland. And due to the Trump administration's bungling of the response to the hurricane, it's conceivable that many of them would turn out to vote against a Trump-backed GOP candidate like DeSantis.

    13 votes
  3. edward
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    This could have further reaching effects on other races as well. If he increases overall turnout in November it could help Bill Nelson in his close Senate race against Rick Scott. And since the...

    This could have further reaching effects on other races as well. If he increases overall turnout in November it could help Bill Nelson in his close Senate race against Rick Scott.

    And since the Republican nominee Ron DeSantis is a Trump guy, the gubernatorial race could be a preview of a potential Bernie vs. Trump race in 2020. Or at least a preview of said race's result in Florida.

    10 votes
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    dubteedub
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    And the racist ~dogwhistles~ bullhorns are already coming out https://www.tallahassee.com/story/news/2018/08/29/desantis-accused-making-racist-slur-gillum/1131912002/

    And the racist ~dogwhistles~ bullhorns are already coming out

    Ron DeSantis, the Republican nominee for Florida Governor told Fox News this morning that Florida shouldn't "monkey this up" by embracing the agenda of Democratic nominee Andrew Gillum.

    https://www.tallahassee.com/story/news/2018/08/29/desantis-accused-making-racist-slur-gillum/1131912002/

    9 votes
    1. [2]
      super_james
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      https://trends.google.com/trends/explore?date=today%205-y&geo=US&q=%22Monkey%20this%20up%22,%22monkey%20it%20up%22 Doesn't really seem like a dog whistle, it's just straight racism. This isn't...

      https://trends.google.com/trends/explore?date=today%205-y&geo=US&q=%22Monkey%20this%20up%22,%22monkey%20it%20up%22

      Doesn't really seem like a dog whistle, it's just straight racism. This isn't some common term.

      8 votes
      1. dubteedub
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        Yeah, that is why I crossed out dogwhistle. It is just straight up racism. DeSantis also has a history with the altright Ron DeSantis attended a conference alongside the alt-right's favorite...

        Yeah, that is why I crossed out dogwhistle. It is just straight up racism.

        DeSantis also has a history with the altright

        He also has stood by audience members who called for lynchings to be brought back.

        Last Saturday in Citrus County, Republican gubernatorial candidate Ron DeSantis told a group of voters about the "four liberals" on the Florida Supreme Court overturning the death sentence of the man convicted of kidnapping, raping and killing 11-year-old Carlie Brucia in Sarasota County in 2004 because the sentencing decision had not been unanimous.

        "I have a tree and a rope in my back yard," one audience member chimed in.

        "Bring back the hanging tree," added the audience member, drawing laughter as DeSantis continued talking about the court.

        When we asked for clarification on his position, DeSantis' campaign stood with the hanging tree questioner.

        "Ron thinks that Floridians should be forgiven for having some pretty strong and not at all politically correct feelings about what should happen to this animal. "

        https://www.tampabay.com/florida-politics/buzz/2018/05/30/bring-back-the-hanging-tree-audience-member-urges-ron-desantis/

        3 votes