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Man who shared mosque shooting livestream sentenced to twenty-one months in prison

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    Bullmaestro
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    I'm really not sure what to think about New Zealand's crackdown on free speech. Merely possessing a copy of the killer's manifesto could land you up to 10 years in prison. When objectionable...

    I'm really not sure what to think about New Zealand's crackdown on free speech. Merely possessing a copy of the killer's manifesto could land you up to 10 years in prison. When objectionable material is being treated more harshly than most crimes, it's the signs of a heavy censorship state.

    If anything attempting to silence the alt-right could risk riling them up even more, and when their ideology has already been linked to 13 fatal incidents between 2014 and 2018, that's a big risk.

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    1. unknown user
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      Hello! New Zealander here. My free speech is just as intact as it was yesterday, one month ago, and 5 years ago. Here's a comment from me that provides some more insight on why this is happening,...
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      Hello! New Zealander here. My free speech is just as intact as it was yesterday, one month ago, and 5 years ago. Here's a comment from me that provides some more insight on why this is happening, and why it isn't a crackdown by our government; and why, on the whole, New Zealanders are in favor of these laws.

      What the article title doesn't mention (if that's all you read) is that the person in question is well known as a neo-Nazi and has been convicted of many offenses—hate crimes, & drug and alcohol offending—in the past. Hell, he uses a well known Nazi signal "14.88" as the price per square metre of insulation that he sells in his business.

      He deserved this. If people want to screech on about free speech, you're entitled to do so, but remember you're a digital guest in our country's social ideology. American ideologies don't apply here (thank god).

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    2. cfabbro
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      When that objectionable material is hate propaganda showing the cold blooded murder of dozens of people, that was even edited to include a crosshair and body count, being shared by a delusional...

      When objectionable material is being treated more harshly than most crimes, it's the signs of a heavy censorship state.

      When that objectionable material is hate propaganda showing the cold blooded murder of dozens of people, that was even edited to include a crosshair and body count, being shared by a delusional Nazi fetishist who compared himself to Rudolf Hess, with the intention of inciting more violence and hate crimes.... frankly, I don't blame them for treating it so severely. And in Canada we have similar hate propaganda laws on the books (as does most of the Western world), and I am glad that we do.

      If anything attempting to silence the alt-right could risk riling them up even more

      Yeah, much better to just let them continue to recruit openly and radicalize even more people in our communities and on major social media platforms. /s

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      The "objectionable material" in question is for terrorist recruiting and incitement to violence, and the defendant is a literal Nazi with a history of hate crimes. It's not just New Zealand, that...

      objectionable material is being treated more harshly than most crimes

      The "objectionable material" in question is for terrorist recruiting and incitement to violence, and the defendant is a literal Nazi with a history of hate crimes.

      It's not just New Zealand, that shit is illegal everywhere.

      Ten years is lenient. The US considers promoting terrorism and recruiting terrorists to be punishable by drone strike (see Anwar al-Awlaki).

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