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Russia will begin delivering its S-400 air-defense system to NATO member Turkey in the coming days, in a deal likely to trigger US sanctions

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Tags: russia, usa, turkiye, nato, military, sanctions, weapons, air defense system, author.amie ferris rotman, author.kareem fahim, paywall.hard
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/europe/russia-confirms-plans-to-send-s-400-antiaircraft-system-to-nato-member-turkey/2019/07/05/1f89ec0a-9f1c-11e9-83e3-45fded8e8d2e_story.html

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Title
Russia confirms plans to send S-400 antiaircraft system to NATO-member Turkey
Authors
Amie Ferris-Rotman, Kareem Fahim
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497 words

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    nic
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    Heading is inaccurate. U.S. Sanctions are not likely, but "remains clouded by apparent conflicting messages."

    Heading is inaccurate.

    U.S. Sanctions are not likely, but "remains clouded by apparent conflicting messages."

    President Trump has publicly shown sympathy for Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan’s decision to purchase the Russian S-400 air-defense system. Secretary of State Mike Pompeo, however, has warned of tough measures such as canceling sales of F-35 fighter jets to Turkey unless it aborts the deal with Russia.

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    1. [2]
      alyaza
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      ah, trumpian foreign policy. where nobody knows what the fuck is going on literally 95% of the time and there is zero consistency in messaging. gotta love it, folks, especially with all the...

      ah, trumpian foreign policy. where nobody knows what the fuck is going on literally 95% of the time and there is zero consistency in messaging. gotta love it, folks, especially with all the potential conflicts we could start.

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      1. Diet_Coke
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        I really can't wait for these chickens to come home to roost just when we need to be investing everything in fighting climate change.

        I really can't wait for these chickens to come home to roost just when we need to be investing everything in fighting climate change.

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  2. [3]
    Dogyote
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    Can anyone elaborate on this snippet: What makes a system incompatible with a particular plane?

    Can anyone elaborate on this snippet:

    NATO has expressed worry that the S-400 is incompatible with Turkey’s possession of the U.S.-made F-35s and could give Russia access to secrets of its stealth technology.

    What makes a system incompatible with a particular plane?

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    1. Arshan
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      My moderately informed layman's understanding would be that it is an incompatiblity FOR the U.S. The S-400 was Russia's top of the line anti-air missile system; the f-35 is supposed to be the...

      My moderately informed layman's understanding would be that it is an incompatiblity FOR the U.S. The S-400 was Russia's top of the line anti-air missile system; the f-35 is supposed to be the U.S.'s second best fighter-jet. Turkey having both could be a public debacle for either/both Russia or/and the U.S.

      If the S-400 can shot down an F-35, the Trillion dollar boondoggle is even more publicly wasteful. If the S-400 can't shot it down, Russia air defenses will look a lot less appealing to foreign buyers. If both fail in unique ways, someone might notice they are scamming everyone.

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    2. Neverland
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      If I understand the situation correctly, Russia helps man the deployed S-400s and also receives all of the data from each station. The F-35 has stealth and jamming technology which can be...

      If I understand the situation correctly, Russia helps man the deployed S-400s and also receives all of the data from each station. The F-35 has stealth and jamming technology which can be profiled, and later compromised, due to the constant F-35/S-400 overflights which will occur in a nation that owns both systems.

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