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Firearms register, halved gun license durations, and more announced for tranche two of New Zealand gun reform: "firearm ownership is a privilege and not a right"

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    unknown user
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    I'm continuing to be impressed with these changes coming out from our government surrounding gun legislation. The changes announced in tranche one are going well with the gun buyback program...

    I'm continuing to be impressed with these changes coming out from our government surrounding gun legislation. The changes announced in tranche one are going well with the gun buyback program already in swing, and the sole dissenting opinion in parliament is from the one libertarian outlier who was never going to agree with any of this anyway. These changes include:

    • Establishing a firearms register
    • Make owning a gun a "privilege" that comes with obligations
    • Tighten the rules to obtain and keep a gun licence
    • Tighten the rules for gun dealers to get and keep a licence
    • Require licences to be renewed every five years
    • Not allow visitors to purchase guns in New Zealand
    • Introduce a new warning system for police so they can intervene if they have concerns about a licence holder's behaviour
    • Introduce a licencing system for shooting clubs and ranges
    • Set up an expert group to advise the police on firearms
    • Introduce new advertising standards around guns
    • Require licences to buy magazines, parts and ammunition
    • Increase penalties and introduce new offences

    Sadly, one tragedy like this is too many and our gun laws should've been tightened further years ago. Hopefully these changes pass and tranche three will be announced at some point.

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    1. nic
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      "I didn't realize there were that many people who had actually died, ah, from the use of firearms." Stuart Nash - Police Chief.

      Sadly, one tragedy like this is too many and our gun laws should've been tightened further years ago.

      "I didn't realize there were that many people who had actually died, ah, from the use of firearms." Stuart Nash - Police Chief.

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  2. [4]
    Algernon_Asimov
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    Oh no! They're treating guns like cars or mobile phones! It's the end of the world! Seriously: we already have government registers which link motor vehicle engine serial numbers with owners, and...

    The Government is seeking cross-party support the latest reform effort, but already resistance to the a firearm register – a contentious measure linking gun serial numbers to licence holders – is fomenting.

    Oh no! They're treating guns like cars or mobile phones! It's the end of the world!

    Seriously: we already have government registers which link motor vehicle engine serial numbers with owners, and any mobile phone can be tracked to its original buyer via its IMEI. Doing the same for guns is not going to bring about the apocalypse.

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      NaraVara
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      I believe the concern is that if the government does ever get it in their heads to do a nation-wide confiscation of firearms, they would need a nation-wide registry to do it. So it's more of a...

      I believe the concern is that if the government does ever get it in their heads to do a nation-wide confiscation of firearms, they would need a nation-wide registry to do it. So it's more of a defensive effort to make it logistically impossible to do the latter by barring them from doing the former.

      From a Realpolitik perspective it makes sense if you're the type of person who thinks being able to cosplay as a macho badass operator supercedes all other societal concerns.

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        nic
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        Are you saying the deep state wants to confiscate my gass guzzler, in addition to my guns?

        Are you saying the deep state wants to confiscate my gass guzzler, in addition to my guns?

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        1. NaraVara
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          Yes. And also any additions you make to your house if you applied for a building permit.

          Yes. And also any additions you make to your house if you applied for a building permit.