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How scientific conferences are responding to US abortion bans and anti-LGBTQ+ laws

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  1. largepanda
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    I miss the days when states with backwards views were just unpleasant to be in, rather than actively hostile to my presence as they are today.

    I miss the days when states with backwards views were just unpleasant to be in, rather than actively hostile to my presence as they are today.

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      Hobofarmer
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      If attendants have reason to worry about local legislation affecting them, their health, and their well-being, then I feel that organizers of said events are well within their rights to consider...

      If attendants have reason to worry about local legislation affecting them, their health, and their well-being, then I feel that organizers of said events are well within their rights to consider changing the venue.

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        1. the_eon
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          It sounds like you didn't read even make it to the second paragraph of the article. I'll quote the pertinent part for you: These laws aren't a matter of politics, they are objectively...

          It sounds like you didn't read even make it to the second paragraph of the article. I'll quote the pertinent part for you:

          The American College of Obstetricians and Gynecologists moved its May meeting this year, from Louisiana to Maryland, after members worried they could be arrested for describing their work

          These laws aren't a matter of politics, they are objectively anti-science. If you have to worry that just speaking, in medical terms, about something related to abortions could land you in jail, that's not only an unsafe location to host such a conference but that's also a decidedly science-hostile location. Such laws want to punish science because science, and medicine, is very clearly pro-abortion and pro-LGBTQ+.

          Honestly, more places should be pulling their conferences elsewhere. I get that there's a steep financial cost associated with doing so, but they should do it anyway and move to a hybrid in-person/virtual attendance model. It makes conferences more accessible, more people can share and receive potentially critical content in a given field, and you do benefit from reduced overall costs. Hopefully moving forward none of these conferences will still be in anti-science locations going forward.

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        2. Hobofarmer
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          And if it happens to be a miscarriage instead? Or a complication with a pregnancy? Not even touching on the LGBTQ+ side of things. I'm also happy to simply agree to disagree here. Ultimately,...

          And if it happens to be a miscarriage instead? Or a complication with a pregnancy?

          Not even touching on the LGBTQ+ side of things.

          I'm also happy to simply agree to disagree here. Ultimately, these are independent interests planning and making moves in independent ways, and we can only judge their decisions - not change them.

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        3. monarda
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          Please read the article.

          That said, how many times have you needed to stop off for a quick abortion on your way to the geology conference?

          Please read the article.

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        4. spit-evil-olive-tips
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          from May: Federal investigation finds hospitals that denied emergency abortion broke the law abortion is healthcare, and that includes sometimes abortion is emergency healthcare.

          how many times have you needed to stop off for a quick abortion on your way to the geology conference?

          from May: Federal investigation finds hospitals that denied emergency abortion broke the law

          The federal agency’s investigation centers on two hospitals — Freeman Health System in Joplin, Missouri, and University of Kansas Hospital in Kansas City, Kansas — that in August refused to provide an abortion to a Missouri woman whose water broke early at 17 weeks of pregnancy. Doctors at both hospitals told Mylissa Farmer that her fetus would not survive, that her amniotic fluid had emptied and that she was at risk for serious infection or losing her uterus, but they would not terminate the pregnancy because a fetal heartbeat was still detectable.

          abortion is healthcare, and that includes sometimes abortion is emergency healthcare.

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    2. oliak
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      Yes they absolutely should be taking a position on this as the criminalization of their professional endeavors and areas of expertise fall directly under their purview. OB-GYNs are being...

      Yes they absolutely should be taking a position on this as the criminalization of their professional endeavors and areas of expertise fall directly under their purview.

      OB-GYNs are being persecuted (and murdered) for performing medicine. Endocrinologists have been threatened and entire hospital systems have had bomb threats called into them because of this rhetoric.

      Yeah, this concerns them as scientists, as professionals and simply as people.

      Imagine getting arrested for saving a mother’s life because she had an ectopic pregnancy and you got a life sentence thrown at you. You better god damned believe this concerns them.

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