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  1. Comment on China is battening down for the gathering storm over Taiwan in ~misc

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    Ukraine part 2: Oriental Boogaloo China sees Russia is getting most of what they want, and now want their own slice.

    Ukraine part 2: Oriental Boogaloo

    China sees Russia is getting most of what they want, and now want their own slice.

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  2. Comment on What makes someone a "decent" person to you? in ~talk

  3. Comment on What makes someone a "decent" person to you? in ~talk

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    That's exactly my point! We can try and describe what a decent person is, but it's such a subjective and personal thing. We've been guided by millions of years of biological and social...

    That's exactly my point! We can try and describe what a decent person is, but it's such a subjective and personal thing. We've been guided by millions of years of biological and social conditioning to connect with those who are similar to us, and expel those who are too different.

    I meant my comment as a sort of tongue in cheek analysis, but I do feel it's the only real objective answer. My subjective answer is more along the lines of what has already been stated in this thread, so I figured this was a good way to spark conversation in a different direction.

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  4. Comment on What makes someone a "decent" person to you? in ~talk

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    A decent person is someone who's morals, norms, personal opinions, ethics, etc. align with my own to some degree. The more they match, the more decent I consider them to be.

    A decent person is someone who's morals, norms, personal opinions, ethics, etc. align with my own to some degree. The more they match, the more decent I consider them to be.

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  5. Comment on "Civil War" discussion thread in ~movies

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    I hate to be pedantic but it's spiel not shpeel. Have a good day!

    I hate to be pedantic but it's spiel not shpeel.

    Have a good day!

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  6. Comment on Elon Musk’s xAI seeks up to $4 billion to compete with OpenAI in ~tech

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    Isn't the opt-out just to not use it?

    Isn't the opt-out just to not use it?

  7. Comment on Denim heads - What raw denim are you currently wearing? What would you recommend? in ~life.style

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    I bought a pair of RRL selvedge jeans. Splurged way more than I usually do on clothing ($175 for jeans and that was on clearance!) but God damn are these some comfy jeans now that I broke them in....

    I bought a pair of RRL selvedge jeans. Splurged way more than I usually do on clothing ($175 for jeans and that was on clearance!) but God damn are these some comfy jeans now that I broke them in.

    I've worn them every day over a month and still haven't needed to wash them. When should I think about doing so? I'll likely put them away for the summer (I wear something more breathable during that time) until cooler weather comes again.

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  8. Comment on Arizona governor signs bill approving human composting burials in ~enviro

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    I just want a sky burial. When it's my time to go, throw me out like the trash I am. I hate how much even death costs these days. Nobody's death should financially ruin you.

    I just want a sky burial. When it's my time to go, throw me out like the trash I am. I hate how much even death costs these days. Nobody's death should financially ruin you.

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  9. Comment on California is preparing to defend itself — and the nation — against Trump 2.0 in ~enviro

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    If y'all secede can Illinois come too

    If y'all secede can Illinois come too

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  10. Comment on Why ban books when you can ban book awards?: Suburban Illinois district cancels youth chosen Caudill Awards in ~books

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    Of course it's Wadsworth. I live about 15 minutes away from there and that entire area (Wadsworth, Zion, Winthrop Harbor, Antioch) is filled with some of the most right wing, loonie,...

    Of course it's Wadsworth. I live about 15 minutes away from there and that entire area (Wadsworth, Zion, Winthrop Harbor, Antioch) is filled with some of the most right wing, loonie, Bible-thumping entitled rednecks that you'll see. You can't go two houses without seeing Trump 2024 or Fuck Biden flags.

    It's a list chosen by children. There's no agenda. You want to push your own agenda but the state banned book bans so you're trying to worm your way around it.

    Fuck Illinois nazi's

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  11. Comment on Folks in those $100k+ jobs, corporate types, office workers... What would you say you actually do? in ~life

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    For what it's worth, I'm angling to get into public school and help neuro divergent kids like I was. I have a special place in my heart for them. It's like a challenge to me, to prop them up and...

    For what it's worth, I'm angling to get into public school and help neuro divergent kids like I was. I have a special place in my heart for them. It's like a challenge to me, to prop them up and give them the help and support I didn't get enough of when I was younger.

    I'm sure it's going to be a hell of an uphill battle, but I've been cutting my teeth in private school for over a decade now, and I want to help the less privileged.

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  12. Comment on Folks in those $100k+ jobs, corporate types, office workers... What would you say you actually do? in ~life

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    This is something I brought up in another post - that the impact of a good educator is incredibly hard to measure. Additionally, sometimes things are just out of your hands (you teach in a rough...

    An amazing teacher could easily produce millions in GDP for each year they work. But that's going to be spread around through thousands of little purchases and paychecks.

    This is something I brought up in another post - that the impact of a good educator is incredibly hard to measure. Additionally, sometimes things are just out of your hands (you teach in a rough area, you have students who for one reason or another are hostile to learning that you cannot get through to, you have parents making spurious accusations, etc) and it can torpedo a genuinely good teacher's ability or will to teach in the same way as having simple bad luck in business or decisions can ruin a promising startup or tech worker.

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  13. Comment on Folks in those $100k+ jobs, corporate types, office workers... What would you say you actually do? in ~life

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    I've taken the time to read through all the comments here (as of now) and I've been able to learn quite a bit. I am grateful for the perspectives offered and have quite a bit to mentally chew on....

    I've taken the time to read through all the comments here (as of now) and I've been able to learn quite a bit. I am grateful for the perspectives offered and have quite a bit to mentally chew on. Thank you to everyone who responded, and I hope its fostered some good discussion and thoughts among us.

    One thing to clarify, is that looking back I feel I came across a bit as complaining, and that wasn't my intention. I'm thankful that most seem to have understood the intent of my question - to learn more about duties and responsibilities of a set of jobs I will likely never experience. Thank you for enlightening me.

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  14. Comment on Folks in those $100k+ jobs, corporate types, office workers... What would you say you actually do? in ~life

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    Oh this is an interesting point that I'll have to mull over. One issue that jumps out immediately - while educators may not then warrant seven figure salaries, their cumulative effects cannot be...

    Oh this is an interesting point that I'll have to mull over.

    One issue that jumps out immediately - while educators may not then warrant seven figure salaries, their cumulative effects cannot be ignored. If we chronically underpay these roles, attracting low quality people into those roles (since higher quality candidates would surely look elsewhere) then we are losing potential in the future as well.

    I may only teach 25 students a year, but the quality of those students is measurably above norm. Imagine if a larger proportion of teachers were like that, the trickling effects it would have across society.

    There was a discussion yesterday about a teaching shortage, this issue was one that came up.

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  15. Comment on Folks in those $100k+ jobs, corporate types, office workers... What would you say you actually do? in ~life

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    Just wanted to take a moment to thank you for the in-depth response. You put a lot of thought into this. Indeed, I don't disagree at all. If you're able to earn your company more contracts and...

    Just wanted to take a moment to thank you for the in-depth response. You put a lot of thought into this.

    But there most certainly are situations where someone's skillset in some way or another can be worth 4, 10, 50 or 100 times more than someone else in that same role.

    Indeed, I don't disagree at all. If you're able to earn your company more contracts and profit than the next best guy, then you have earned that increased pay. It's difficult to judge what people "should" be paid by referencing one industry against another, especially when there isn't a tangible result or results are dependent on myriad other factors (such as in teaching or elderly care or what have you.)

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  16. Comment on Folks in those $100k+ jobs, corporate types, office workers... What would you say you actually do? in ~life

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    My dad certainly is quite capable, and I get the feeling he's one of those taking in that large amount of raw data and making sense of it to point companies in new directions. That seems like...

    My dad certainly is quite capable, and I get the feeling he's one of those taking in that large amount of raw data and making sense of it to point companies in new directions. That seems like something which is becoming increasingly replaceable with AI though? At least my dad seems to think so - he's mentioned how AI is increasingly becoming omnipresent in his field.

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  17. Comment on Folks in those $100k+ jobs, corporate types, office workers... What would you say you actually do? in ~life

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    Sadly this is something I've come to recognize. It's just demoralizing. There was another thread here yesterday about a teacher shortage and one of the main issues is lack of decent pay for...

    Throw justification out of the window, it doesn't matter, this is the world. Teachers in America (or elsewhere if you live somewhere where it also pays poorly) are paid badly because of politics preying on teachers liking what they do and putting up with the situation for as long as possible. Office workers get paid more (the ones that do get paid more) presumably because companies haven't been able to get away with paying less, nothing more nothing less.

    Sadly this is something I've come to recognize. It's just demoralizing. There was another thread here yesterday about a teacher shortage and one of the main issues is lack of decent pay for educators. I wonder how market forces would adjust for that, given that public schooling is a function of government and thus not quite as subject to direct market pressure. Private schools are a thing (I work at one) but the pay there is often worse than in public schools.

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  18. Comment on Folks in those $100k+ jobs, corporate types, office workers... What would you say you actually do? in ~life

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    It still seems that in Dev and IT there's actual tangible products you can point to as "this is a product of my work, without my input this wouldn't have happened" which doesn't always seem to...

    It still seems that in Dev and IT there's actual tangible products you can point to as "this is a product of my work, without my input this wouldn't have happened" which doesn't always seem to obviously be the case.

    Another commenter pointed out that they play as a sort of interface between the C-suite/execs and the actual workers, and that their product is more about their interactions with people and politicking. Would that be the same in your case as well?

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  19. Comment on Folks in those $100k+ jobs, corporate types, office workers... What would you say you actually do? in ~life

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    This is a sensible way to look at it. More responsibility and more challenge if things don't go the right way. I still don't feel that those at the very top (or bottom) are paid what they are...

    the question of pay has many parts to it, but it rarely boils down to whose work is "harder" or takes more effort in an absolute sense. Often it comes down to judgement and responsibility. I'm paid for my ability to make the right decision in the face of complexity, whether it be financial, legal, regulatory, etc.

    This is a sensible way to look at it. More responsibility and more challenge if things don't go the right way. I still don't feel that those at the very top (or bottom) are paid what they are actually worth, but you've given another perspective to give the issue of "Why do you get paid so much to seemingly do so little".

    I also appreciate how you broke it down at different levels of management. Thanks for taking the time to lay it all out.

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  20. Comment on Folks in those $100k+ jobs, corporate types, office workers... What would you say you actually do? in ~life

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    This actually explains a lot. Thanks for taking the time to walk it through - some other commenters have stated the same and looking at how the structure in my school works it's sort of the same...

    Basically my day is spent navigating the politics, meetings, and back room deals with a goal of ensuring my team doesn't get negatively impacted by all that stuff.

    This actually explains a lot. Thanks for taking the time to walk it through - some other commenters have stated the same and looking at how the structure in my school works it's sort of the same as having the teachers interface with owners through directors, or the owners working with corporate and smoothing out ruffles between their (generally terrible) decisions and boots-on-the-ground experience.

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