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Canadian election: Liberals projected to form government

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  1. [11]
    Liru
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    It is currently too soon to say whether it will be a minority or majority government.

    It is currently too soon to say whether it will be a minority or majority government.

    4 votes
    1. [10]
      chocobean
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      Dude. I got pizza instead of cooking tonight, after driving a neighbour to the polls after work. Been watching the CBC live since then and just now feel like exhaling and sitting down into my...

      Dude. I got pizza instead of cooking tonight, after driving a neighbour to the polls after work. Been watching the CBC live since then and just now feel like exhaling and sitting down into my chair.

      On the other hand, I feel so bad for NDP and Mr Jagmeet Singh. He got so much done for all Canadians even without ever having had mandate. I don't know if he can stay as leader and if they'll make 12 ridings (official party status) but I feel it's so unfair for them to lose this badly. I squarely blame Justin Trudeau on our country's loss of having even a chance for Singh to lead us.

      Watching Carleton carefully now, see if I can go to bed feeling relaxed or going to bed laughing like a maniac. (Star live)

      Edit: 11:46pm Bruce Fanjoy is currently leading. C'mon!!! 🤣

      Edit: 02:03 PP congratulates Carney as his own riding is still up for grabs.

      13 votes
      1. [9]
        Liru
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        That Carleton ballot, though. The CBC correspondent actually described it as "girthy".
        5 votes
        1. [8]
          chocobean
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          I know it's childish but I can't stop giggling about it. I love seeing weird stuff like this when people use the rules of democracy for petty spiteful nonsense. Hehehe girthy.

          I know it's childish but I can't stop giggling about it. I love seeing weird stuff like this when people use the rules of democracy for petty spiteful nonsense. Hehehe girthy.

          5 votes
          1. [7]
            Raspcoffee
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            What was up with the ballots? Some sort of stunt for publicity?

            What was up with the ballots? Some sort of stunt for publicity?

            1 vote
            1. [6]
              chocobean
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              There was a protest movement: The motivation is two fold: (1) first past the post is ridiculous and we desperately need electoral reform as promised 10 years ago by Justin Trudeau. And (2) in a...

              There was a protest movement:

              The Longest Ballot Committee is a political movement in Canada, at one time affiliated with the Rhinoceros Party,[1] known for flooding ballots with a large number of independent candidates in protest of the first-past-the-post (FPTP) voting system and other electoral reform related issues.(Wiki)

              The motivation is two fold: (1) first past the post is ridiculous and we desperately need electoral reform as promised 10 years ago by Justin Trudeau. And (2) in a sea of 93 names, it'll be harder for voters to find incumbent Pierre Poilievre 's name. Our ballots are fixed in alphabetical order.

              PP has officially been defeated, ending his representation of the Carleton riding since 2004. The silly ballot isn't the only reason though, a lot of Ottawa residents were put off when PP showed support for and visited the truckers' Freedom Convoy, which was an especial nuisance for Ottawa residents.

              According to RCMP documents tabled at the Emergencies Act inquiry last year, the national police force believes Diagolon is a militia-like network whose supporters subscribe to an "accelerationist" ideology — the idea that a civil war or the collapse of western governments is inevitable and ought to be sped up.

              "Are they the kind of leader that is going to exacerbate divisions, fears and polarization in our country, make personal attacks and welcome the support of conspiracy theorists and extremists? Because that's exactly what Pierre Poilievre continues to do, not just when you see him engaging with members of Diagolon but also when he refuses to condemn and reject the endorsement of Alex Jones."

              4 votes
              1. [3]
                DefinitelyNotAFae
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                If the PM candidate of a party doesn't win their own riding, are they still able to be PM? Or does the party have to pick a new person from their MPs

                If the PM candidate of a party doesn't win their own riding, are they still able to be PM? Or does the party have to pick a new person from their MPs

                2 votes
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                  chocobean
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                  If he had become PM without a riding, he would be where Mark Carney had been for the last little bit, which is okay to PM, and he would do so from a balcony seat instead of the usually Member of...

                  If he had become PM without a riding, he would be where Mark Carney had been for the last little bit, which is okay to PM, and he would do so from a balcony seat instead of the usually Member of Parliament chair. We've had this happen before and usually they like to sneak them into a safe by-election.

                  Now that Poilievre has lost his own riding, and lost his party's 25point lead in the polls from January. He said last night before he was declared officially defeated in Carleton riding that he intends to stay on. But we will see if his own party has the knives out for his back. Days ago insiders say his war room was dysfunctional, and surely others are going to look for their turn. On the other hand the Conservatives did pick up new ridings, even flipping key and long time Liberal ridings, so PP will surely boast that his strategy has been working and that they have more power than before, a victory.

                  My personal hope is that they'll outst the populist elements in favor of a different approach to Conservatism, to ditch the divisive rhetoric and to work together for unity across Canada. We could use some old school conservatives again.

                  4 votes
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                Raspcoffee
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                Glad you guys are actually building up a movement to get rid of FPTP, it made sense more than a century ago, but it does not so much now. Also, good job getting rid of PP. We don't need more...

                Glad you guys are actually building up a movement to get rid of FPTP, it made sense more than a century ago, but it does not so much now. Also, good job getting rid of PP. We don't need more anti-democratic (officially or unofficially...) populists.

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                1. terr
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                  I don't know how much of a movement it truly is. A lot of people here acknowledge that it's not a great system, but it's also the system that gets the people with the ability to change it into...

                  I don't know how much of a movement it truly is. A lot of people here acknowledge that it's not a great system, but it's also the system that gets the people with the ability to change it into position to change it in the first place, so there's still negative incentive for them to do so.

                  When Justin Trudeau originally started running as leader of the Liberal party, he campaigned on primarily two things: legalizing weed, and vote reform. Then he dropped the pursuit of vote reform less than a year into his leadership, and that's kind of when I gave up on him. But at least we've got weed now, so that's cool?

                  3 votes