I really don’t see how they got off. The essential facts are so very clear: they knew they weren’t “duly elected and qualified electors” — that’s incontrovertible. It doesn’t matter if there were...
I really don’t see how they got off. The essential facts are so very clear: they knew they weren’t “duly elected and qualified electors” — that’s incontrovertible. It doesn’t matter if there were irregularities. Their signed documents are black and white lies, and those documents were passed forward to the Senate as if they were in order to effect an illegal presidency.
Nessel accused the defendants of having “met covertly in the basement of the Michigan Republican Party headquarters,” where they “signed their names to multiple certificates stating they were the ‘duly elected and qualified electors for President and Vice President of the United States of America for the State of Michigan.’”
“These false documents were then transmitted to the United States Senate and National Archives in a coordinated effort to award the state’s electoral votes to the candidate of their choosing, in place of the candidates actually elected by the people of Michigan,” Nessel’s office said in the 2023 news release announcing the charges.
If he was allowed to pardon state crimes that would overturn many pieces of constitutional law that have been accepted since the founding of the country. It would be a public acknowledgement that...
If he was allowed to pardon state crimes that would overturn many pieces of constitutional law that have been accepted since the founding of the country.
It would be a public acknowledgement that we are not the same country we were five years ago.
We are in uncharted territory but I don't think the states would passively accept it.
We broadly forgave the Confederates too, to the extent of letting people that attacked Black people, and their homes and businesses off without punishment. We also forgave Nazi scientists. Perhaps...
We broadly forgave the Confederates too, to the extent of letting people that attacked Black people, and their homes and businesses off without punishment.
We also forgave Nazi scientists.
Perhaps if there's anything reassuring here it's that this isn't new
I really don’t see how they got off. The essential facts are so very clear: they knew they weren’t “duly elected and qualified electors” — that’s incontrovertible. It doesn’t matter if there were irregularities. Their signed documents are black and white lies, and those documents were passed forward to the Senate as if they were in order to effect an illegal presidency.
It can’t be any more clear, can it?
It’s clear that the coup is ongoing and is using the system to whitewash sedition and treason.
This judge is sending a signal that MAGA political conspiracy is above the law.
The supreme court already sent that message months ago
And so have other judges. It's not a one and done thing because new cases keep working through the system.
Cynic in me but maybe they just know the president will pardon them and nothing they do matters
President can't pardon crimes under state law
Idk seems like any time someone says he cant do such and such he just goes and does it anyway
If he was allowed to pardon state crimes that would overturn many pieces of constitutional law that have been accepted since the founding of the country.
It would be a public acknowledgement that we are not the same country we were five years ago.
We are in uncharted territory but I don't think the states would passively accept it.
I woulda drawn the line at encouraging a violent insurrection but idk I guess George Washington participated in one technically?
We broadly forgave the Confederates too, to the extent of letting people that attacked Black people, and their homes and businesses off without punishment.
We also forgave Nazi scientists.
Perhaps if there's anything reassuring here it's that this isn't new