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Pope Leo calls universal healthcare a 'moral imperative'

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  1. DefinitelyNotAFae
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    It feels like this Pope had to argue about a pre-auth for something before.

    Universal health coverage is … a moral imperative for societies that wish to call themselves just," the pope said in a meeting with participants in a healthcare conference organised by the World Health Organization and European bishops.

    It feels like this Pope had to argue about a pre-auth for something before.

    "Healthcare must be accessible to the most vulnerable … not only because their dignity requires it but also ‌to ⁠prevent injustice from becoming a cause of conflict," he said. "Health cannot be a luxury for the few."

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  2. post_below
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    If you'd asked me 15 years ago if I thought I'd kinda love two consecutive popes, I would have put the odds near zero. But here we are.

    If you'd asked me 15 years ago if I thought I'd kinda love two consecutive popes, I would have put the odds near zero. But here we are.

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      DefinitelyNotAFae
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      Personally I disagree if only because having to make choices about providing healthcare or not depending on how much money people have saved is the reason I can't get married to my partner. In...

      Personally I disagree if only because having to make choices about providing healthcare or not depending on how much money people have saved is the reason I can't get married to my partner.

      In fact reading up on it, taxes would seem to be more efficient.

      Edit: the first two deleted posts were advocating for a system akin to Singapore with government mandated healthcare savings accounts over single payer and later mentioned the safety nets in that system for disabled or poor people. Also mentioned was this idea of this fitting American ideals better. I don't know why they were deleted, I feel like this was incredibly minor resistance.

      I did not see the third post.

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          DefinitelyNotAFae
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          Or I pay taxes and the government pays the healthcare. For everyone. Instead of multiple tiers of saving and paying and hoping you qualify for help or when you didn't save but something bad still...

          Or I pay taxes and the government pays the healthcare. For everyone. Instead of multiple tiers of saving and paying and hoping you qualify for help or when you didn't save but something bad still happen to you.

          I have no attachment to American values of self sufficiency or political philosophy of being weird about everyone having Medicare or whatever.

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              One thing you seem to have left out is that the health care triumvirate of corporate hospitals and clinics, health insurance and pharmaceuticals charge Americans more than people in other...

              One thing you seem to have left out is that the health care triumvirate of corporate hospitals and clinics, health insurance and pharmaceuticals charge Americans more than people in other countries pay.

              I don't think it's realistic to blame the problem on government managed health care, except inasmuch as the government has failed to effectively regulate those industries. Single payer introduces a single point of negotiation with the health care industry. Which, combined with ongoing regulation and legislation, seems like a good way to bring prices down.

              Meanwhile if we let the existing system determine prices, with more government subsidies, prices coming down seems unlikely. The free market has failed pretty spectacularly in terms of affordable, universally accessible care.

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            2. MimicSquid
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              Private health care companies already refuse care or otherwise kill people to save costs. Government "death panels" have been a played out talking point for twenty years at this point.

              Private health care companies already refuse care or otherwise kill people to save costs. Government "death panels" have been a played out talking point for twenty years at this point.

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  4. atchemey
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    What a mensch.

    What a mensch.

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