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What might the new Webb telescope discover?

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  1. [13]
    Amarok
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    Glad to see Sabine here. I find her to be refreshingly skeptical and grounded compared to the majority of science reporting on youtube. If the mechanics of the telescope she talks about interest...

    Glad to see Sabine here. I find her to be refreshingly skeptical and grounded compared to the majority of science reporting on youtube. If the mechanics of the telescope she talks about interest you, there's a much deeper dive into the hardware on Real Engineering.

    For myself, I'm just hoping that we get a few WTF?! moments out of this telescope, and see something that's totally left-field unexpected.

    8 votes
    1. [12]
      balooga
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      I hadn't heard of Sabine before. Enjoyed this, then I ventured out to other videos on her channel too. She's great! Terrific physics content with other fun stuff in the mix, and I'm digging her...

      I hadn't heard of Sabine before. Enjoyed this, then I ventured out to other videos on her channel too. She's great! Terrific physics content with other fun stuff in the mix, and I'm digging her wardrobe in every episode too. Thanks @Apos for the introduction!

      I'm very much looking forward to seeing what JWST is able to find in the upcoming years. It's nice to have something to look forward to these days. Can anyone recommend a good place to follow / subscribe for noteworthy images and explanations from it? I'm hoping to find a nice middle ground that's a bit geekier than mainstream media "science reporting" but not a firehose of raw data either. Just a distillation of the more notable findings, in plain English, along with some pretty pictures, maybe once a month or so.

      5 votes
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        Staross
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        She's great when it comes to basic science but she sometimes has some more controversial "hot takes" on more methodologic & philosophical subjects and it's not always clear to the audience she's...

        She's great when it comes to basic science but she sometimes has some more controversial "hot takes" on more methodologic & philosophical subjects and it's not always clear to the audience she's not an expert on those and that it's just her opinion.

        5 votes
        1. [9]
          gpl
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          Chiming in to second this. As someone in the field I find much of her content extremely frustrating for exactly this reason. She has many contrarian view, for lack of a better descriptor, and this...

          Chiming in to second this. As someone in the field I find much of her content extremely frustrating for exactly this reason. She has many contrarian view, for lack of a better descriptor, and this is often either not made clear, or is framed as a "lone thinker against the scientific crowd" type deal. Her videos can be good for the basics but if you strictly followed her you would be left with some non-standard views.

          6 votes
          1. [6]
            balooga
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            Interesting, I appreciate the context. Can you (or @Staross) recommend any similar YouTube channels that are more orthodox?

            Interesting, I appreciate the context. Can you (or @Staross) recommend any similar YouTube channels that are more orthodox?

            2 votes
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              psi
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              Thirding @Staross and @gpl. Admittedly I'm not familiar with Dr Hossenfelder's basic science videos, but whenever I hear about her in my circles it's usually regarding some hot-take of hers. I...

              Thirding @Staross and @gpl. Admittedly I'm not familiar with Dr Hossenfelder's basic science videos, but whenever I hear about her in my circles it's usually regarding some hot-take of hers.

              I think the PBS spacetime videos are nice, though I don't watch them very often (I'm not really the intended audience). Sean Carroll (CalTech physicist) also has an excellent podcast in which he interviews experts in their fields (often physics or philosophy, but any subject is fair game).

              4 votes
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                balooga
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                Oh yes, I've had Mindscape in my rotation for some time, Sean Carroll is great! I'll check out PBS spacetime, thanks for the recommendation.

                Oh yes, I've had Mindscape in my rotation for some time, Sean Carroll is great! I'll check out PBS spacetime, thanks for the recommendation.

                2 votes
                1. gpl
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                  These are definitely more technical so I am not sure if they will suite you, but I like CosmologyTalks on Youtube https://www.youtube.com/CosmologyTalks . They are quite technical though....

                  These are definitely more technical so I am not sure if they will suite you, but I like CosmologyTalks on Youtube https://www.youtube.com/CosmologyTalks . They are quite technical though.

                  Otherwise I don't really watch a lot of youtube videos dealing with physics, beyond the popular ones that occasionally come up. Things like:

                  MinutePhysics
                  3Blue1Brown
                  https://www.youtube.com/c/ScienceClicEN/featured

                  3 votes
            2. [2]
              Staross
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              PBS spacetime is pretty good but it's a lot of very speculative theoretical physics, which is often the target of Sabine. Some of her videos almost look like debunking of PBS spacetime. For...

              PBS spacetime is pretty good but it's a lot of very speculative theoretical physics, which is often the target of Sabine. Some of her videos almost look like debunking of PBS spacetime.

              For astrophysics my favorite is probably Dr. Becky, she got some videos in which she does a kind of historical review of a subject, those are really good :

              https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nbE8B7zggUg

              2 votes
              1. Apos
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                They both watch each other's videos. It's a bit of a running gag (PBS Spacetime and Sabine). I think it was in Theory of Everything Controversies: Livestream (feat. Brian Keating, Lee Smolin,...

                They both watch each other's videos. It's a bit of a running gag (PBS Spacetime and Sabine). I think it was in Theory of Everything Controversies: Livestream (feat. Brian Keating, Lee Smolin, Sabine Hossenfelder, and Eric Weinstein) that they say it.

                It's pretty funny because I started by watching a lot of PBS Spacetime and I'd sometimes get a Sabine video in my recommended queue but I couldn't stand her because I thought she had the same type of channel but it was more "boring". At some point I gave her more of a chance and now I appreciate her no bullshit style more.

                2 votes
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            Apos
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            I finished her book recently and she makes a good case for her "contrarian" views on science. More and more science is becoming more like a religion. You have theories that are impossible to prove...

            I finished her book recently and she makes a good case for her "contrarian" views on science. More and more science is becoming more like a religion. You have theories that are impossible to prove or test. Also those theories fail to make predictions.

            She made a video about her opinion: Can Physics Be Too Speculative? An Honest Opinion..

            1 vote
            1. gpl
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              Yes, she is not the first person to point this out. Her book is good, but again I think she overstates the problem and makes it seem more dire. Science is not becoming like a religion, the lack of...

              Yes, she is not the first person to point this out. Her book is good, but again I think she overstates the problem and makes it seem more dire. Science is not becoming like a religion, the lack of testable predictions by subjects like string theory is a known issue that the community is trying to grapple with. She seems to be upset with the fact that many physicists are happy to continue studying things that are increasingly not connected with the "real world". I don't see why that is an issue, as that is what mathematicians do all the time. I have yet to see a paper claiming any of these things are true without lack of evidence. Also, I will point out, for a theory to be scientific it only needs to be falsifiable in principle, if not in practice.

              Dr. Hossenfelder's main gripe, to me, seems to be with science media and communication making these things (string theory, supersymmetry, etc) out to be more confirmed than they actually are. That's surely an issue, but I don't think it's an issue or crisis for the field itself. Basically, I think she makes these things out to be more egregious than they actually are, probably because she stands to benefit from that.

              3 votes
      2. Apos
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        I've been liking /r/space. There are many experts that comment there including people that worked on Webb. Sabine is great, it took me a while to get into her style but now I can't stand most...

        I've been liking /r/space. There are many experts that comment there including people that worked on Webb.


        Sabine is great, it took me a while to get into her style but now I can't stand most other YouTube science channels. I finished her book called Lost in Math. Really great book that follows her journey as a physicist.

        2 votes