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Private trackers

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  1. [4]
    3WolfMoon
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    Agreed with other comments here that you should interview to join your first private tracker(s), as it avoids risks from both ends: You end up as a bad actor, your inviter is associated. Your...
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    Agreed with other comments here that you should interview to join your first private tracker(s), as it avoids risks from both ends:

    • You end up as a bad actor, your inviter is associated.
    • Your inviter ends up as a bad actor, you are associated.

    Reputable trackers will often have official recruitment to other trackers in their invite forums, which can be accessed after reaching certain user classes. This is the recommended path to future trackers if you don't know and trust someone who already has access.

    Don't fall for much of the newbie misinformation you will see many places outside of the trackers themselves. It's often spread by those who are upset they were unable to gain access or lost access to trackers, usually because they broke the rules and are arrogant or straight-up dumb:

    Spending money for tracker access

    No reputable tracker offers paid access. At most, they may offer small (often cosmetic) benefits for donators. In no way is paying a requirement for use, any site pressuring you towards payment is not reputable.

    Being intimidated by tracker staff

    The vast majority of tracker staff are in the position because it's their hobby. If you're genuinely attempting to contribute, they will probably be willing to help, but you're expected to read the rules, wikis, etc., be respectful, and use your brain. You can also use trackers longterm with minimal to no community interaction if that's what you desire, but the communities are often informative and helpful.

    Ratio is too difficult or requires a seedbox

    It's entirely possible to use private trackers on a poor home connection. They often encourage uploading and long term seeding through bonus point systems, allowing you to improve ratio over time even if nobody downloads from you directly. Don't immediately download as much as you can upon getting access. Download things you're actually wanting and seed them for as long as possible (forever would be best.) Competitive trackers with small filesizes will take you much longer to build a comfortable buffer. Make use of any freeleech, tokens, bonuses, etc. where possible.

    If you want, you can set up a seedbox of some sort to improve buffer faster, but it's not a requirement or cure-all. There may be some discussion on relevant topics in the tracker forums.

    Luckily, you're looking for a music tracker, and what I would consider the best current music tracker offers both an interview process and a high quality invite forum. You may have to idle in IRC for quite a while before given an opportunity to interview. They offer a preparation site which you should study beforehand. Answer to the best of your ability, but do not try to cheat the interview.

    Here is a spreadsheet with some information on many trackers. I'd recommend looking at RED and MAM as starting points given your mentioned needs.

    13 votes
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      Foreigner
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      These were exactly the ones I was going to suggest as well, just didn't know if we could name them openly here. The interview process for MAM is honestly not difficult if you follow their...

      I'd recommend looking at RED and MAM as starting points given your mentioned needs.

      These were exactly the ones I was going to suggest as well, just didn't know if we could name them openly here. The interview process for MAM is honestly not difficult if you follow their instructions.

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      1. 3WolfMoon
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        I'm not completely sure either, as I know little about Canadian law or Deimos's personal feelings, but I haven't seen anything to suggest discussion of piracy should be discouraged. I just comment...

        I'm not completely sure either, as I know little about Canadian law or Deimos's personal feelings, but I haven't seen anything to suggest discussion of piracy should be discouraged. I just comment in good faith and assume if something isn't welcome it will either be pointed out to me by a more longstanding community member or deleted by Deimos.

        I avoid direct linking as it's more frequently frowned upon both by discussion sites like Tildes and sometimes the would-be linked communities themselves. In this specific case, if someone wasn't willing or able to do the last bit of research to find appropriate links on their own, they likely wouldn't do well on a private tracker anyway.

        4 votes
    2. onion
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      Can confirm. I got an invite to what.cd many years ago, and I parlayed that into other private trackers that focus on different content types. I'm now a regular on five private trackers: one for...

      Reputable trackers will often have official recruitment to other trackers in their invite forums, which can be accessed after reaching certain user classes. This is the recommended path to future trackers if you don't know and trust someone who already has access.

      Can confirm. I got an invite to what.cd many years ago, and I parlayed that into other private trackers that focus on different content types. I'm now a regular on five private trackers: one for general content (music/TV/movies/software), one for music + some audiobooks, one for e-books and audiobooks, one for movies, and another for NSFW content. It used to be six, but Bb shut down at some point.

      None of the private trackers I got access to via the what.cd forums had rules nearly as strict as what.cd (except for RED, the spiritual successor to what.cd). I put more effort into WCD/RED than any of the other trackers by a long shot. It didn't take long on the others to have so many bonus points that I never had to worry about ratio/100% seeding. I'm not VIP class on all of them, but I can always use bonus points to buy it temporarily for VIP-only torrents.

      1 vote
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    jackson
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    adding on to teaearlgraycold, it’s often a bannable offense to request/trade invites in public. Generally the way to join a private tracker without knowing someone personally would be to...

    adding on to teaearlgraycold, it’s often a bannable offense to request/trade invites in public. Generally the way to join a private tracker without knowing someone personally would be to “interview,” if you search around you can probably find resources related to that.

    8 votes
    1. teaearlgraycold
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      It took me years to get into my preferred tracker. Indeed interviewing with a tracker that had open interviews was the way I got my foot in the door. After you get into your first tracker you need...

      It took me years to get into my preferred tracker. Indeed interviewing with a tracker that had open interviews was the way I got my foot in the door. After you get into your first tracker you need to follow their rules, build a good ratio, and upload some torrents to gain access to their invites forum. Get invites to other trackers to gain access to their different set of invites, repeat until you've reached your target tracker.

      12 votes
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    delphi
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    I've always thought private trackers weren't really worth it, as they're just another thing to actively maintain. I do pay for Usenet access, and there's a lot of [ FREE Linux ISOs ! ] to be found...

    I've always thought private trackers weren't really worth it, as they're just another thing to actively maintain. I do pay for Usenet access, and there's a lot of [ FREE Linux ISOs ! ] to be found there. Much simpler to just pay the in my opinion very reasonable, like, 3 bucks a month than to collate three or four streaming services, or futz around with applying and maintaining access to private trackers.

    6 votes
    1. kari
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      Yeah, I’m in a few private trackers but Usenet usually has the exact same releases. I think private trackers for a specific thing can be useful, though, since you can usually expect the quality to...

      Yeah, I’m in a few private trackers but Usenet usually has the exact same releases. I think private trackers for a specific thing can be useful, though, since you can usually expect the quality to be up to certain standards.

      3 votes
  4. teaearlgraycold
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    Sometimes trackers can be very paranoid and will deactivate or limit your account if you invite someone that has an IP that implies you don’t know the invitee in person. It’s often a strict...

    Sometimes trackers can be very paranoid and will deactivate or limit your account if you invite someone that has an IP that implies you don’t know the invitee in person. It’s often a strict stipulation that invites aren’t given out so freely.

    5 votes
  5. Foreigner
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    For ebooks there is a private tracker that uses an interview system, I can send you the link via private message. Otherwise have you looked into Anna's Archive? I'm not on it but there's a big...

    For ebooks there is a private tracker that uses an interview system, I can send you the link via private message. Otherwise have you looked into Anna's Archive?

    I'm not on it but there's a big private tracker mostly for music that also interviews, but I've been told it's a pain to keep your ratio up. Can also send you the link to that and their interview website.

    3 votes
  6. eggy
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    MAM is def the way to start, find some things you can upload, and then from MAM go to OPH, ive been stuck grinding cds (like 15 more to go before i get access to their invite forum!), but from...

    MAM is def the way to start, find some things you can upload, and then from MAM go to OPH, ive been stuck grinding cds (like 15 more to go before i get access to their invite forum!), but from there you have access to so much. As other commenters have said though, paying for usenet may be more worth your while (especially if you wait for something like black friday). In terms of music, books, and general media I have not found it a struggle keeping my ratio up. To be fair though I don't devour content, especially in music I don't download a much and try and just use FL tokens. Happy to send u links to places if you want to dm!

    1 vote