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The EU's copyright proposal is extremely bad news for everyone, even (especially!) Wikipedia

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  1. [4]
    ContemplativePanda
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    This won't pass. And if it does, the sites will just move to different hosts and disable access for anyone from the EU meaning that it screws over the entire EU as a whole for being so stupid. You...

    This won't pass. And if it does, the sites will just move to different hosts and disable access for anyone from the EU meaning that it screws over the entire EU as a whole for being so stupid.

    You know would be nice though? Government's that understood how the internet worked and didn't keep trying to (accidentally or intentionally) destroy it at every turn.

    8 votes
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      Tetizeraz
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      It's impressive that the same government that went ahead and pushed a great piece of legislation regarding privacy can also try to kill the internet.

      It's impressive that the same government that went ahead and pushed a great piece of legislation regarding privacy can also try to kill the internet.

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      1. Eva
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        It wasn't really that great - it was way too heavy handed and overall downright unfair for smaller entities.

        It wasn't really that great - it was way too heavy handed and overall downright unfair for smaller entities.

      2. ContemplativePanda
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        Ignorance is a funny thing. I truly believe governments - both the systems and the people within them - need to be shaken up to allow for more flexible, quick acting, and intelligent policy making...

        Ignorance is a funny thing. I truly believe governments - both the systems and the people within them - need to be shaken up to allow for more flexible, quick acting, and intelligent policy making without any interference from outside entities such as corporations.

        The fact that the government is being provided information solely from corporate entities and not some government agency that conducted research to ensure neutrality absolutely amazes me. I honestly can't believe the world holds together with how much shit there is filling in the cracks.

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    Catt
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    This seems too easy for abuse... Honestly, this whole things seems a bit too poorly drafted to pass...one would hope.

    Sites will have to pay to license the technology to match submissions to the database, and to identify near matches as well as exact ones.

    This seems too easy for abuse...

    Honestly, this whole things seems a bit too poorly drafted to pass...one would hope.

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    1. Tetizeraz
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      From what I read, that's the purpose, but yeah, it doesn't make sense for the internet. Publishers simply need new ways to innovate, like NY Times or The Guardian.

      From what I read, that's the purpose, but yeah, it doesn't make sense for the internet. Publishers simply need new ways to innovate, like NY Times or The Guardian.

  3. Tetizeraz
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    The copyright reform has many goals, but Article 13 has been considered a controversial topic. Here's some information from Reuters: Some NGOs, like "The Civil Liberties Union for Europe" have...

    The copyright reform has many goals, but Article 13 has been considered a controversial topic. Here's some information from Reuters:

    Search engines like Google and Microsoft’s Bing could be made to pay for showing snippets of news articles under draft copyright rules endorsed by European Union ambassadors on Friday.

    The original proposal from the European Commission had foreseen giving publishers the right to ask for payment for up to 20 years.

    The EU copyright reform package would also force websites like YouTube to seek a license from rightsholders for displaying their content, for example a music video, or prevent it from being accessible.

    News publishers have had an acrimonious relationship with the likes of Google in the past, whom they blame for revenue and readership declines. Google has tried to remedy that by establishing the Digital News Initiative which funds publishers’ digital projects.

    The tech industry says measures like “snippet taxes” do not lead to greater remuneration for the media as search engines channel millions of clicks to news sites enabling them to make money via online advertising.

    Some NGOs, like "The Civil Liberties Union for Europe" have also published open letters against this copyright reform: https://www.liberties.eu/en/news/delete-article-thirteen-open-letter/13194

    There was an AMA yesterday with Julia Reda from the Pirate Party. She's a member of the European Parliament and answered one question, mentioning that even Reddit could face consequences: https://reddit.com/r/europe/comments/8oywxz/i_am_mep_julia_reda_fighting_to_saveyourinternet/e0796o6/?context=3

    There also more information here: https://saveyourinternet.eu/

  4. XenonNSMB
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    Content ID is already incredibly terrible, and applying something like it to the whole internet is an incredibly stupid idea. This totally ignores the principles of fair use and basically forces...

    Content ID is already incredibly terrible, and applying something like it to the whole internet is an incredibly stupid idea. This totally ignores the principles of fair use and basically forces websites to assume any copyrighted file is infringing on someone's rights and hold it for review. And this also makes it pretty much impossible for small sites that allow user-generated content to operate in the EU, because they don't have the funds to create or license auto copyright claiming technology. Hopefully it doesn't pass.