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AI at Google: our principles

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    SaucedButLeaking
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    Holy shit. Lot to take in there. First, I like that they are explicitly stating that they aren't creating AI weapons. Of course, Facebook has explicitly stated several times that they're going to...

    Holy shit. Lot to take in there.

    First, I like that they are explicitly stating that they aren't creating AI weapons. Of course, Facebook has explicitly stated several times that they're going to improve their privacy practices

    Second, if they're publishing this, I feel like they're close to real applications. Their experiments are bearing fruit and they're starting to move to production. This is them priming the pump and easing into it.

    Third, I don't know if I believe that they won't be using AI for surveillance. Sure, they might not turn it over to any three letter agencies, at least not until asked nicely, but I can almost guarantee that they have AI research geared towards their primary business function... building data profiles of everyone online and selling ads to them.

    I've always been of the opinion that either Google or Facebook was going to be the one to crack the general AI problem if anyone was. An announcement like this makes it seem like they think they have a chance of actually doing it.

    I'm probably reading way too much into this and overhyping naively, but dammit, this is cool.

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      ajar
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      Not necessarily, I think. Although they already have some neat applications and are surely working on several more, it's been a common thought in AI development, that this kind of guidelines...

      Second, if they're publishing this, I feel like they're close to real applications.

      Not necessarily, I think. Although they already have some neat applications and are surely working on several more, it's been a common thought in AI development, that this kind of guidelines should be set way before there's any big breakthrough, because we might get to a point where things spin out of control unless there are enough safety guards. Arguably, most, if not all, of these guidelines have already been circulating among AI researchers for a while, but I think it's good that Google included them explicitly. I'm in permanent hype on this topic, tbh.

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      1. SaucedButLeaking
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        Yeah, you're right. But my hype is reaching unprecedented levels! I mainly said the second point because Google's publicizing these guidelines to people who don't follow AI excitedly. That seems...

        Yeah, you're right. But my hype is reaching unprecedented levels! I mainly said the second point because Google's publicizing these guidelines to people who don't follow AI excitedly. That seems like a signaling move that they're working to use them more seriously... which means that they've had success with them.

        I don't (except in fantasy-daydream land) believe that AGI is around the corner, but an announcement like this pumps a lot of steam into the hype train

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    rib
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    Advertising, they're going to use it for advertising.

    Advertising, they're going to use it for advertising.

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    1. [2]
      SaucedButLeaking
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      Definitely. That's their primary mission. But the research they put into this won't be lost in the aether. They're doing good work, even if I wish their motivations were altruistic rather than...

      Definitely. That's their primary mission. But the research they put into this won't be lost in the aether. They're doing good work, even if I wish their motivations were altruistic rather than profit-driven.

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      1. rib
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        Though I probably come across cynical I should have said, probably better Google than another company. I think their conduct is some of the best you can hope for from a corporation. Indeed, I...

        Though I probably come across cynical I should have said, probably better Google than another company. I think their conduct is some of the best you can hope for from a corporation.

        even if I wish their motivations were altruistic rather than profit-driven.

        Indeed, I guess that's the thing, the vast amount of resources required for this undertaking is always in the profit-driven sector.

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