There's nothing particularly profound here, but I didn't realize until I read this that Apple was no longer selling any computer that has the butterfly keyboard. I do agree that the past five...
There's nothing particularly profound here, but I didn't realize until I read this that Apple was no longer selling any computer that has the butterfly keyboard.
I do agree that the past five years of keyboard issues have done massive amounts of damage to Apple's reputation when it comes to their laptops. I think it will take a long time to build up the trust of consumers and the brand cache that they once had.
I have a 2017 15-inch MacBook Pro for work and a 2019 16-inch MacBook Pro myself. Since getting the 16-inch MBP, I find myself using that whenever possible, even for work things. The keyboard is just so much nicer to type on.
I mean, technically they still do, the older iPad smart keyboard retains the butterfly switch mechanism, the important thing to note is that the whole keyboard is encapsulated in the fabric, so...
but I didn't realize until I read this that Apple was no longer selling any computer that has the butterfly keyboard.
I mean, technically they still do, the older iPad smart keyboard retains the butterfly switch mechanism, the important thing to note is that the whole keyboard is encapsulated in the fabric, so there's no opportunity for dust or dirt ingress.
Yeah. As I mentioned as in a different comment, I hate the feeling of the butterfly keyboard. The bottoming out of the key is much harder than any other keyboard I've ever used. It feels a lot...
Yeah. As I mentioned as in a different comment, I hate the feeling of the butterfly keyboard. The bottoming out of the key is much harder than any other keyboard I've ever used. It feels a lot closer to typing on glass than I like.
My spouse has complained that I'm typing too loudly when I use mine. That's something she never complained about with my past Apple notebooks. (The funny thing is it's not nearly as loud as the...
My spouse has complained that I'm typing too loudly when I use mine. That's something she never complained about with my past Apple notebooks. (The funny thing is it's not nearly as loud as the IBM Model M that I use on my work Mac!)
Yeah. It's only over for Apple's designers and hardware engineers. It's not over for the millions of customers who purchased any MacBook laptop from 2016 to 2020. There's a trail of broken...
Yeah. It's only over for Apple's designers and hardware engineers.
It's not over for the millions of customers who purchased any MacBook laptop from 2016 to 2020. There's a trail of broken keyboard switches, dust, service repair requests, and paperwork that is going to stretch on for at least another half decade.
Sad for me. I really liked the butterfly keyboards. I suppose my tune would've changed if I ever hit the reliability issue, but I much prefer them to the scissor switches.
Sad for me. I really liked the butterfly keyboards. I suppose my tune would've changed if I ever hit the reliability issue, but I much prefer them to the scissor switches.
What do you like about them? To me, they are extremely “hard”. The scissor switches are a lot softer when they bottom out. The best way I can describe it is that it feels a lot more like typing on...
What do you like about them? To me, they are extremely “hard”. The scissor switches are a lot softer when they bottom out. The best way I can describe it is that it feels a lot more like typing on glass than it does with a keyboard with more travel.
I tried all three generations of the keyboard and while they definitely got better, I think the new Magic Keyboard is far better in terms of feeling while typing.
There's nothing particularly profound here, but I didn't realize until I read this that Apple was no longer selling any computer that has the butterfly keyboard.
I do agree that the past five years of keyboard issues have done massive amounts of damage to Apple's reputation when it comes to their laptops. I think it will take a long time to build up the trust of consumers and the brand cache that they once had.
I have a 2017 15-inch MacBook Pro for work and a 2019 16-inch MacBook Pro myself. Since getting the 16-inch MBP, I find myself using that whenever possible, even for work things. The keyboard is just so much nicer to type on.
I mean, technically they still do, the older iPad smart keyboard retains the butterfly switch mechanism, the important thing to note is that the whole keyboard is encapsulated in the fabric, so there's no opportunity for dust or dirt ingress.
It solved the single biggest problem that people had with these keyboards.
For sure. The fabric also helps reduce the haptic shallowness of the mechanism itself by providing some spring through the fabric.
Yeah. As I mentioned as in a different comment, I hate the feeling of the butterfly keyboard. The bottoming out of the key is much harder than any other keyboard I've ever used. It feels a lot closer to typing on glass than I like.
My spouse has complained that I'm typing too loudly when I use mine. That's something she never complained about with my past Apple notebooks. (The funny thing is it's not nearly as loud as the IBM Model M that I use on my work Mac!)
Still not over for me yet, my left shift key, left command key, a key, e key and z key all still don't work on my macbook.
Yeah. It's only over for Apple's designers and hardware engineers.
It's not over for the millions of customers who purchased any MacBook laptop from 2016 to 2020. There's a trail of broken keyboard switches, dust, service repair requests, and paperwork that is going to stretch on for at least another half decade.
Sad for me. I really liked the butterfly keyboards. I suppose my tune would've changed if I ever hit the reliability issue, but I much prefer them to the scissor switches.
What do you like about them? To me, they are extremely “hard”. The scissor switches are a lot softer when they bottom out. The best way I can describe it is that it feels a lot more like typing on glass than it does with a keyboard with more travel.
I tried all three generations of the keyboard and while they definitely got better, I think the new Magic Keyboard is far better in terms of feeling while typing.