I can't hear the dialogue because I just hear Mike Stoklasa of RedLetterMedia saying "That's not Star Trek" and weeping In the first few scenes the character motivations and reactions just feel...
I can't hear the dialogue because I just hear Mike Stoklasa of RedLetterMedia saying "That's not Star Trek" and weeping
In the first few scenes the character motivations and reactions just feel completely off?? I don't know... I can't really get into it. It doesn't help that all the dialogue is awful too
It’s pretty terrible, starting with the Elastigirl VO in the very beginning. Pass. I’d like to think it’s just an Alex Kurtzman problem but I’m sure it runs deeper than that. It’s unbelievable how...
It’s pretty terrible, starting with the Elastigirl VO in the very beginning. Pass.
I’d like to think it’s just an Alex Kurtzman problem but I’m sure it runs deeper than that. It’s unbelievable how many times TPTB at Paramount have completely fumbled the Star Trek franchise. Honestly the volume of the crap probably outnumbers the good stuff at this point. I still reflexively call myself a Trekkie but I haven’t truly enjoyed any new media bearing that name since the late ‘90s. Get off my lawn bridge.
I'm sure I'll be among the minority, here, but since I can't be downvoted, I'll be honest: I am really enjoying the show (and the show's potential), so far. Are there things I could complain...
I'm sure I'll be among the minority, here, but since I can't be downvoted, I'll be honest: I am really enjoying the show (and the show's potential), so far.
Are there things I could complain about?
Absolutely. But I'm not going to because it's too easy to nitpick and complain about anything new and I'd rather take my cue from O.G. Star Trek and be optimistic and hopeful about the future.
I always thought DISCO really squandered the potential of traveling to the future by not focusing on how all of the different planets and civilizations have changed and adapted after The Burn. There were easily multiple seasons worth of material to explore in that setting! You'd keep a sense of familiarity while letting everything still feel new, and have the crew going around to help out and provide that sense of hope and inspiration, again. But, instead, the show just went back to saving the universe from ever-greater threats and always failed to stick the landing at the end of the season.
But Academy seems to be doing exactly what I hoped for, in that regard, which makes me really excited.
The cadets are all young and inexperienced, so they have room to justifiably make impulsive mistakes (which was harder to excuse for the crew of Discovery). Even most of the teachers—and the Academy, itself—are new so there's plenty of room for interesting stories stemming from that as they all try to figure out how to make Starfleet Academy work in this radically different political climate.
By the end of the second episode, I felt like they already started to show that the various characters aren't going to be one-dimensional and capable of growth, which is going to be vital for the show (I'm more than willing to accept mistakes and immaturity from young characters, but not if they don't learn and grow from those mistakes).
As long as they don't focus on Caleb too much (the way DISCO did with Burnham), I think the show is starting off in a great position. His character is actually the one I'm the least interested in, but I'm hopeful for his character after the little growth moments shown in Episode 2.
So I think Academy is off to a really promising start—and probably the best series premier of any series except Strange New World.
And, honestly, I'm just incredibly grateful it's not another TOS-era show.
IMO, I'm of the opinion that it's fine and it's not really scratching my itch, but it's good for what it is, taking a bit of the Prodigy adventure show, with a mix of live action streaming Trek...
IMO, I'm of the opinion that it's fine and it's not really scratching my itch, but it's good for what it is, taking a bit of the Prodigy adventure show, with a mix of live action streaming Trek sensibilities that put me off. It's really impossible to talk about this show without the Paramount situation, and I fear that this is going to be a one and done under the new management as a source of sacrificial trash, if you're familiar with the video from Sarah Z. The show wears its morals on its sleeve, and that's enough to churn up some nasty Internet types whose views align enough with the new owners of Paramount folks for me to not really think this one is getting the full five seasons. Kind of a shame, since people familiar with the screeners feel that the show has something to say by the end of what they have been given, and I did enjoy it, but I don't think it's appointment viewing for me. It's popcorn, I'm not asking any more of it for now.
I can't hear the dialogue because I just hear Mike Stoklasa of RedLetterMedia saying "That's not Star Trek" and weeping
In the first few scenes the character motivations and reactions just feel completely off?? I don't know... I can't really get into it. It doesn't help that all the dialogue is awful too
It’s pretty terrible, starting with the Elastigirl VO in the very beginning. Pass.
I’d like to think it’s just an Alex Kurtzman problem but I’m sure it runs deeper than that. It’s unbelievable how many times TPTB at Paramount have completely fumbled the Star Trek franchise. Honestly the volume of the crap probably outnumbers the good stuff at this point. I still reflexively call myself a Trekkie but I haven’t truly enjoyed any new media bearing that name since the late ‘90s. Get off my
lawnbridge.I'm sure I'll be among the minority, here, but since I can't be downvoted, I'll be honest: I am really enjoying the show (and the show's potential), so far.
Are there things I could complain about?
Absolutely. But I'm not going to because it's too easy to nitpick and complain about anything new and I'd rather take my cue from O.G. Star Trek and be optimistic and hopeful about the future.
I always thought DISCO really squandered the potential of traveling to the future by not focusing on how all of the different planets and civilizations have changed and adapted after The Burn. There were easily multiple seasons worth of material to explore in that setting! You'd keep a sense of familiarity while letting everything still feel new, and have the crew going around to help out and provide that sense of hope and inspiration, again. But, instead, the show just went back to saving the universe from ever-greater threats and always failed to stick the landing at the end of the season.
But Academy seems to be doing exactly what I hoped for, in that regard, which makes me really excited.
The cadets are all young and inexperienced, so they have room to justifiably make impulsive mistakes (which was harder to excuse for the crew of Discovery). Even most of the teachers—and the Academy, itself—are new so there's plenty of room for interesting stories stemming from that as they all try to figure out how to make Starfleet Academy work in this radically different political climate.
By the end of the second episode, I felt like they already started to show that the various characters aren't going to be one-dimensional and capable of growth, which is going to be vital for the show (I'm more than willing to accept mistakes and immaturity from young characters, but not if they don't learn and grow from those mistakes).
As long as they don't focus on Caleb too much (the way DISCO did with Burnham), I think the show is starting off in a great position. His character is actually the one I'm the least interested in, but I'm hopeful for his character after the little growth moments shown in Episode 2.
So I think Academy is off to a really promising start—and probably the best series premier of any series except Strange New World.
And, honestly, I'm just incredibly grateful it's not another TOS-era show.
IMO, I'm of the opinion that it's fine and it's not really scratching my itch, but it's good for what it is, taking a bit of the Prodigy adventure show, with a mix of live action streaming Trek sensibilities that put me off. It's really impossible to talk about this show without the Paramount situation, and I fear that this is going to be a one and done under the new management as a source of sacrificial trash, if you're familiar with the video from Sarah Z. The show wears its morals on its sleeve, and that's enough to churn up some nasty Internet types whose views align enough with the new owners of Paramount folks for me to not really think this one is getting the full five seasons. Kind of a shame, since people familiar with the screeners feel that the show has something to say by the end of what they have been given, and I did enjoy it, but I don't think it's appointment viewing for me. It's popcorn, I'm not asking any more of it for now.