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The Mandalorian | S01E03: The Sin

The Mandalorian is set after the fall of the Empire and before the emergence of the First Order. We follow the travails of a lone gunfighter in the outer reaches of the galaxy far from the authority of the New Republic.


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  1. [9]
    dubteedub
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    I was a little let down by episode 3 compared to the first two. It felt very obvious and cliche how it would play out. Of course he gives up Baby Yoda just to go back and save him. The...

    I was a little let down by episode 3 compared to the first two. It felt very obvious and cliche how it would play out. Of course he gives up Baby Yoda just to go back and save him. The mandalorians that were attacking the protag earlier come to his rescue later on. The guildmaster who ran from battle sneaks up on him alone at his ship. And then after hes shot, he of course survives, but just barely. It all just seemed really predictable this episode.

    That said, the visuals, special effects, score, costumes, and everything else is still just unbelievably top notch.

    8 votes
    1. [2]
      krg
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      Yup! Felt the same. I think the whole "baby Yoda" thing is putting a damper on what this series could be, to be honest. I mean... it's cute as hell, but it's totally pandering.

      Yup! Felt the same. I think the whole "baby Yoda" thing is putting a damper on what this series could be, to be honest. I mean... it's cute as hell, but it's totally pandering.

      3 votes
      1. SunSpotter
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        I honestly wanted him to just drop off Yiddle, walk away to a new job, and be haunted by his actions later. I feel like his actions weren't really justified to me either, as some have pointed out.

        I honestly wanted him to just drop off Yiddle, walk away to a new job, and be haunted by his actions later.

        I feel like his actions weren't really justified to me either, as some have pointed out.

        2 votes
    2. [6]
      Omnicrola
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      Although I've enjoyed the relative lack of exposition so far (show, don't tell) I feel like I needed a bit more justification for M going back and rescuing the kid. Are we supposed to link his...

      Although I've enjoyed the relative lack of exposition so far (show, don't tell) I feel like I needed a bit more justification for M going back and rescuing the kid. Are we supposed to link his sympathy to the kid to the childhood flashbacks? Because that didn't seem like enough to me.

      Also I'm confused by the other Mandalorians, I thought for sure that when he went against the guild, he was also going against his fellow Mandalorians since they appear to use bounty hunting as a way to survive. Which he has now jeoparadized. So I think I'm missing a crucial piece of lore there.

      3 votes
      1. [4]
        CALICO
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        So, a few things. Mandalorians are very loyal to their own. You take care of eachother above all else. If a Mandalorian adopts you, you're a Mandalorian as far as they're concerned. Even if you're...

        So, a few things.

        Mandalorians are very loyal to their own. You take care of eachother above all else.

        If a Mandalorian adopts you, you're a Mandalorian as far as they're concerned. Even if you're not a Mandalorian by blood.

        Family is more than blood.
        —Mandalorian Proverb

        The Empire occupied Mandalore, and thus the Mandalorians have beef with the Empire.

        Mando was a Foundling, that is, an orphaned child. He was taken in by the Mandalorians, and now he is one of them.

        When Mando presented his reward to the smith, the other Mandalorians noticed it was Imperial spoils. From their perception, Mando was aiding & abetting their enemies by doing their dirty work for them, and taking rightful Mandalorian property in return. Basically, he was helping the Imperial remnants and all he was getting in return is something the Mandalorians owned by right already. They weren't too happy about this.

        Mando had a bit of an arc with Yiddle this episode, and that control knob spells it out. At first he takes it away from Yiddle, annoyed. Then he drops of Yiddle, and wants to know what will happen to them. He gets kindly told to fuck himself. Then he goes home. His confrontation with that other Mandalorian reminds him that he helped an enemy, and left a child to an unknown fate. During the forging of his cuirass, he flashes back to the moment he was orphaned. He goes to get another bounty, and again asks what will happen to the child. That's twice he's expressed concern. When he goes back to his ship, he reaches for the lever and the knob is gone. This reminds him explicitly about Yiddle, and his concern peaks.

        "Aw fuck. I have to save Yiddle. They're a Foundling just like I was, and everyone is being sketchy as fuck about what's going to happen to them."
        —Probably his thoughts

        So he betrays the code of the Bounty Hunter Guild, to honor the code of his adopted people. As a bonus, he's fucking over the enemy by stealing back what they wanted while keeping the Beskar. The other Mandalorians support him because of this.

        "Hey, Mando did the right thing after all. Good lad."
        —Probably what they said to eachother

        At the end, Yiddle goes for the knob again. Mando gives it to him. He's taken on Yiddle as his responsibility, and basically considers them to be family instead of just a bounty.

        14 votes
        1. Omnicrola
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          Great clarification, thanks! Side note: really love the "heavy" Mandalorian that looked like a Space Marine.

          Great clarification, thanks!
          Side note: really love the "heavy" Mandalorian that looked like a Space Marine.

          2 votes
        2. Neuroflux
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          I get that there's probably something in the guild's Code that says "no take-backs," as was suggested in the dialogue, and Mando's actions would set an unfavorable precedent for the guild. But it...

          So he betrays the code of the Bounty Hunter Guild,

          I get that there's probably something in the guild's Code that says "no take-backs," as was suggested in the dialogue, and Mando's actions would set an unfavorable precedent for the guild. But it seems to me that he had completed the transaction and his obligations were fulfilled. He gave the Imperials adequate time to take over the security of Yiddle, and Mando had returned to free agent status by the time he attacked.

          I wonder if the guild's Code would have allowed a second, new bounty to be placed on Yiddle. Mando could have completed it and been free and clear as far as the rules are concerned.

          2 votes
        3. Weldawadyathink
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          Also, the mandolorian that Mando has a fight with says something about only one mandolorian being able to go out at a time. I got the impression that the bounty hunters had no idea that there was...

          Also, the mandolorian that Mando has a fight with says something about only one mandolorian being able to go out at a time. I got the impression that the bounty hunters had no idea that there was more than 1 mandolorian there, let alone an entire tribe.

          1 vote
      2. moocow1452
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        I think the answer to both of those is that the Child is now a Foundling, in that he was found and rescued by a Mandalorian, assuming that I'm understanding correctly that Mandalorian tribes are...

        I think the answer to both of those is that the Child is now a Foundling, in that he was found and rescued by a Mandalorian, assuming that I'm understanding correctly that Mandalorian tribes are just as much whoever gets brought into them as much as who's born into them. Mando himself was likely a Foundling, and there's probably a "leave no man behind" clause in the Mandalorian way that would override any pragmatism or Bounty Hunter's code.

        3 votes
  2. [2]
    dubteedub
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    I just saw this article on Polygon on the first episodes of the Mandalorian and thought this was worth sharing here for any thoughts. The Mandalorian is basically a video game A few of the...

    I just saw this article on Polygon on the first episodes of the Mandalorian and thought this was worth sharing here for any thoughts.

    The first three episodes of The Mandalorian have featured the mostly silent, helmeted titular bounty hunter making his way from world to world, taking jobs from anyone willing to pay up. But as the series has progressed, it’s started to feel far more like a video game than any other TV show before it. The tropes are specific, and familiar from a wide variety of console games. Here’s a rundown of the most video game-y moments in The Mandalorian so far.

    A few of the specifics called out in the article are:

    • ARMOR CRAFTING
    • BLURRG-RIDING PERK UNLOCKED
    • DEFEND THE DOOR AGAINST WAVES OF ENEMIES
    • PERFORMING SELF-HEALING
    • A FETCH QUEST
    • BOSS FIGHT
    • FANCY CHEST-OPENING SEQUENCE
    • NEW ABILITY UPGRADE
    5 votes
    1. Thrabalen
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      Well, yeah. It's basically SWTOR (Star Wars The Old Republic) set in a post-Imperial era. I was saying that from the start.

      Well, yeah. It's basically SWTOR (Star Wars The Old Republic) set in a post-Imperial era. I was saying that from the start.

      1 vote
  3. [4]
    senko
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    I like The Mandalorian so far. The style, the story, I just enjoy it. Love the Baby Yoda too. But I have to vent: why the hell does he always leave the ship open? It's just such a dumb thing to...

    I like The Mandalorian so far. The style, the story, I just enjoy it. Love the Baby Yoda too.

    But I have to vent: why the hell does he always leave the ship open? It's just such a dumb thing to do! It almost cost him the ship in previous episode, and his life this one.

    I don't take the entire show too seriously, but this one really breaks the fantasy for me.

    3 votes
    1. Sand
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      Maybe he can only close it from the inside.

      Maybe he can only close it from the inside.

    2. [2]
      Ephemere
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      Yeah, it's just something that you seem to do in Star Wars, and I agree, it doesn't make a ton of sense. For me, the strangest moment was when the tribe came together to save Mando, and then just...

      Yeah, it's just something that you seem to do in Star Wars, and I agree, it doesn't make a ton of sense.

      For me, the strangest moment was when the tribe came together to save Mando, and then just told him to run off. They were all going to have to go somewhere else, why not go somewhere else together? It's not like Mando had anywhere in particular to actually go himself.

      1. zptc
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        Bounty fobs would lead hostiles to wherever the Mandos all went as long as mini-Yoda was with them. I don't know if that's the canon reason but it seems like a factor.

        Bounty fobs would lead hostiles to wherever the Mandos all went as long as mini-Yoda was with them. I don't know if that's the canon reason but it seems like a factor.

        2 votes
  4. [2]
    Sand
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    I think this episode was better than the previous one. It wasn't filler and there wasn't as much baby yoda in it. When will they realise that putting children in Star Wars is a bad idea? That...

    I think this episode was better than the previous one. It wasn't filler and there wasn't as much baby yoda in it. When will they realise that putting children in Star Wars is a bad idea?

    That said, the plot is boring and predictable. You'd think a TV series would have a deeper story than a movie, but apparently that would be too risky. So it takes things very slowly, with not much happening other than action revolving around two characters who don't even talk. Oh well, we haven't even seen half the series yet, so hopefully the upcoming episodes are more interesting.

    1. Neuroflux
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      It feels like these 3 episodes comprised what would have been a single pilot episode in a lot of other shows. Now it seems like the stage is set and the show could go any direction - unless the...

      It feels like these 3 episodes comprised what would have been a single pilot episode in a lot of other shows. Now it seems like the stage is set and the show could go any direction - unless the storyline plays out identical to John Wick.

      3 votes