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  1. Comment on America’s Millennials Are Waking Up to a Grim Financial Future in ~finance

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    I need to preface this first, before responding to your arguments. I watched that video until 12:55 when the credits were playing to legitimately listen to your side. There was about 2 minutes of...

    I need to preface this first, before responding to your arguments.

    I watched that video until 12:55 when the credits were playing to legitimately listen to your side. There was about 2 minutes of content wrapped up in another 11 minutes of satire and someone who was entirely too self satisfied with how clever he was, to just lay out his argument. Please do not continue to link videos with that low a signal/noise ratio or I will not be able to spend the time to actually discuss the topic with you.

    As to your argument and the argument made in the video, I don't see how this is a response. I am not under some delusion that the state is a noble protector who does no wrong. Every nation on Earth has had it borders forged in blood and violence. The state is routinely a bad actor against its own citizens. It is routinely violent and capricious. It routinely takes from people with no concern to it the affect on their lives.

    What has happened is that over thousands of years of government, it has gotten better. We have moved on from everyone living under actual warlords and being slaves tied to the kingdom or land, to democracies that(while corrupt) give at least some say to the people. Throwing away all government will get us right back to stage 0 of what mankind was like. What you have linked here still doesn't deal with the fact that there are other groups of people who would hurt others and take their stuff. Hell we(assuming you are in the US) are one of the groups of people, we took a lot from the natives and mexico, and tried to take from Canada. In the past century we had WW2 where several states tried to take over the world and had American and Soviet Imperialism. In just the past decade we've had a religious movement try and take over the middle east, had Russia take both parts of Georgia and Ukraine, and have had China butting up against everyone in the south sea to demand territory which is only being held back because the US acts like its their territory first.

    You are right, these are just effectively big gangs fighting each other, but these gangs will not just disappear if one country manages to agree to dissolve the government and go down a fully libertarian route.

    Until you have a response to the fact that splitting everyone up into fully individual citizens that only work together with consent will immediately be bowled over by any largish group of people bound together and working towards the goal of taking your stuff, I cannot see how it would be feasible in the real world

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  2. Comment on America’s Millennials Are Waking Up to a Grim Financial Future in ~finance

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    What do they mean by "waking up to?" Millennials have already started to hit their 30s and weve been dealing with this since we were adults. The majority of the millennials I know are barely able...

    What do they mean by "waking up to?" Millennials have already started to hit their 30s and weve been dealing with this since we were adults. The majority of the millennials I know are barely able to get by and have been struggling ever since 2008. I am fairly well off and I still have to live with multiple roommates so that I can live close enough to where jobs are without commuting for 2+ hours a day.

    When my parents were my age they had a house, could support children, and had money saving up. I dont know a single other millennial who is living that lifestyle now who does not A: spend more than 3 hours total commuting or B: had parents rich enough to pay for all of college or give them a house

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  3. Comment on America’s Millennials Are Waking Up to a Grim Financial Future in ~finance

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    To get this straight, your advocating that we let people starve so that others aren't taxed? Beyond even that, we already produce more food than needed to feed everyone, but it's allocated based...

    This is going to sound harsh, but that is an unrealistic goal. If you make "feed everyone" your goal and aim to accomplish it through force you're setting up for unchecked population growth.

    To get this straight, your advocating that we let people starve so that others aren't taxed? Beyond even that, we already produce more food than needed to feed everyone, but it's allocated based on who can pay the most and not who needs it. We also have shown that as societies have advanced and birth control has come out that every modern nation has a birthrate below the replacement level. The only one I know of that bucks that trend is the US and that's because of the numbers of immigrants joining. The native population is below the replacement rate.

    Much of what you stated about the government taking money for cause A and using it for cause B is true, but how would getting rid of the government solve these problems? You'll never get around the issue of some organization that is not run on libertarian values deciding to use force or outsized economic power to take things from you without having a large protective force, commonly known as a government

    7 votes
  4. Comment on Blizzard Dev Watercooler - World of Warcraft Classic in ~games

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    I tried out some of the private vanilla servers and would have to disagree about the gameplay loop being more fun. In general I don't think MMO's are fun at all when you look at the gameplay...

    I tried out some of the private vanilla servers and would have to disagree about the gameplay loop being more fun.

    In general I don't think MMO's are fun at all when you look at the gameplay itself. There's a ton of grinding, running back and forth over the world, tons of random materials you need from all over the place that necessitate more grinidng and traveling. You can make that less painful and make try gameplay more fun for an individual but that gets an MMO trapped in a local optimum.

    When I played the vanilla servers it was harder and less fun as an individual, but the increased difficulty forced players to work together and increased social interaction. That's where all the fun of the MMO's come from, the social interaction and group accomplishments. In vanilla it was difficult enough that you could earn yourself a reputation as a guy worth playing with, and trolls or ninjas would be shunned which limited bad behavior. With current WoW everything is too easy so users aren't forced into cooperation. You just sign up for dungeon finder or raid finder, half the people can be asleep and you'll still win the dungeon/raid. You don't have elite quests anymore that led to strangers meeting up in zones or groups of friends preparing to go out together to help one complete a questline. It's just comepletly sterile.

    I played warlords of draenor and managed to get up to raiding and actually complete raids without talking to a single other player. It was fairly unejoyable the entire time

    1 vote
  5. Comment on What defines a perfect human? in ~talk

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    There is no perfect unless every environment is the same. Any basket of physical and mental characteristics might be perfect if you live on a mountain that gets 4 months of winter, but would...

    There is no perfect unless every environment is the same. Any basket of physical and mental characteristics might be perfect if you live on a mountain that gets 4 months of winter, but would utterly fail compared to a different basket of characteristics if you lived in a temperate river Delta or a tropical rain forest.

    The question has no answer without further constraints

  6. Comment on Does/Could Tildes make an effort to recruit minority voices? in ~tildes

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    I joined Tildes from a post on hackernews but to be honest we're kinda elitist assholes over there. A lot of the posts range from predatory capitalism to condescending paternalistic views and I...

    I joined Tildes from a post on hackernews but to be honest we're kinda elitist assholes over there. A lot of the posts range from predatory capitalism to condescending paternalistic views and I say that as someone whose most likely contributed to that culture.

    I want to find a place that gets past the hive minds and toxicity of Reddit and hackernews, but the problem is that I don't know where those kinds of people are or I would have already joined.

    My current tactic is joining this new community the has an ostensible goal of being a better digital square and just trying to police my own actions to keep this a good place

    16 votes
  7. Comment on Does/Could Tildes make an effort to recruit minority voices? in ~tildes

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    It might be that the OP only saw it when threads reached the front page. I've read the subreddit directly and it seemed like an average subreddit in terms of userbase and toxicity levels but the...

    It might be that the OP only saw it when threads reached the front page. I've read the subreddit directly and it seemed like an average subreddit in terms of userbase and toxicity levels but the threads that reached the front page we're significantly more divisive

    8 votes
  8. Comment on California? Or Cali-Three-Nia? Proposal to split state will be on ballot in November in ~news

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    Ah well in that we are in agreement

    Ah well in that we are in agreement

  9. Comment on California? Or Cali-Three-Nia? Proposal to split state will be on ballot in November in ~news

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    That doesn't seem like individual self governance as described by the OP. Additionally I said more empathy, not giving us empathy in the first place. There is a high enough incidence of sociopathy...

    That doesn't seem like individual self governance as described by the OP. Additionally I said more empathy, not giving us empathy in the first place. There is a high enough incidence of sociopathy in the population, or just dealing with people that arent part of your in group, that a "fuck it" event like I described would not be a rare occurrence

    3 votes
  10. Comment on California? Or Cali-Three-Nia? Proposal to split state will be on ballot in November in ~news

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    That does sound ideal but unfortunately I think it's a pipe dream unless you genetically engineer everyone to have more empathy. Everyone being self governed and only interacting when theirs...

    That does sound ideal but unfortunately I think it's a pipe dream unless you genetically engineer everyone to have more empathy. Everyone being self governed and only interacting when theirs consent on both sides is great until someone bigger than you says "fuck it" and just starts dumping their trash on your land or taking your stuff

    3 votes
  11. Comment on <deleted topic> in ~news

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    I'd still like to see that data. The graph here is saying the government is taking more out of the economy than when we were in a war where the entire economy was mobilized to support the...

    I'd still like to see that data. The graph here is saying the government is taking more out of the economy than when we were in a war where the entire economy was mobilized to support the governments actions. It just doesn't pass the smell test to me

    1 vote
  12. Comment on Daily Tildes discussion - banning for bad-faith/trolling behavior in ~tildes.official

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    I'd rather them edit that they remover something that was unintentionally inflammatory. Removing it silently seems like it's just trying to stir shit without getting caught. Once is coincidence,...

    I'd rather them edit that they remover something that was unintentionally inflammatory. Removing it silently seems like it's just trying to stir shit without getting caught. Once is coincidence, twice is a trend, third time is enemy action and all that

  13. Comment on <deleted topic> in ~news

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    Well if you had any kids youd need another room. I don't think it was common for people to be rooming together unless they were family, and it used to be expected that you would have children....

    Well if you had any kids youd need another room. I don't think it was common for people to be rooming together unless they were family, and it used to be expected that you would have children.

    There are even laws on the books limiting the number of unrelated women that could live in the same dwelling as it was assumed you must be a brothel of you had a bunch of unrelated people living together

    1 vote
  14. Comment on <deleted topic> in ~news

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    Right, but if it's total tax revenues relative to gdp, that's a rate which should follow the aggregate tax rate. You can't get more in taxes as a percentage of gdp unless you increase the tax...

    Right, but if it's total tax revenues relative to gdp, that's a rate which should follow the aggregate tax rate. You can't get more in taxes as a percentage of gdp unless you increase the tax rate.

    As far as I am aware the aggregate tax rate has dropped since ww2 where it was massively high to support the war, and the graph does not reflect that. I'd like to see the source data to figure out whether I am wrong in my idea about tax rates or whether the graph is wrong

    1 vote
  15. Comment on <deleted topic> in ~news

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    Tax rates have come down considerably since ww2 and this graph does not reflect that. Where is the data for this graph coming from?

    Tax rates have come down considerably since ww2 and this graph does not reflect that. Where is the data for this graph coming from?

    1 vote
  16. Comment on <deleted topic> in ~news

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    That used to be considered modest, back when people were able to get houses right out of school. Maybe it's not anymore, but that's just a reflection of the decreased wealth the average worker had...

    That used to be considered modest, back when people were able to get houses right out of school. Maybe it's not anymore, but that's just a reflection of the decreased wealth the average worker had nowadays

    3 votes
  17. Comment on Suggestion: recruit fewer people from reddit in ~tildes

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    It did get some people at least. I know I came from your last hn post and have been on here pretty frequently since then

    It did get some people at least. I know I came from your last hn post and have been on here pretty frequently since then

    3 votes
  18. Comment on What are your thoughts on a Universal Basic Income? in ~talk

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    Every technogical change before has led to new jobs, and I don't think that will change with the introduction of AI. The new problem we have is the rate of change is beyond what is economically...

    Every technogical change before has led to new jobs, and I don't think that will change with the introduction of AI.

    The new problem we have is the rate of change is beyond what is economically feasible for humans to keep up with. It used to be you spent 4-10 years learning a trade or skill and that was a job for life. Now you can start college and be out of date before you even graduate. Pair that with the costs to get trained growing faster than inflation and it seems impossible for the majority of the populace to be able to get skills fast enough to stay marketable.

    1 vote
  19. Comment on Daily Tildes discussion - banning for bad-faith/trolling behavior in ~tildes.official

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    The result of that is deception and flame baiting like we've seen here. It might be worth that trade-off but we should explicitly decide that rather than not acknowledge the trade off

    The result of that is deception and flame baiting like we've seen here. It might be worth that trade-off but we should explicitly decide that rather than not acknowledge the trade off

    1 vote
  20. Comment on Daily Tildes discussion - banning for bad-faith/trolling behavior in ~tildes.official

    Lovich
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    Hypnotoad was posting inflammatory and insulting sentences along with his non inflammatory paragraph. He kept editing the inflammatory sentences out after he had gotten a few responses which, of...

    Hypnotoad was posting inflammatory and insulting sentences along with his non inflammatory paragraph. He kept editing the inflammatory sentences out after he had gotten a few responses which, of course, we're responding to the inflammatory sentence. Whether or not this was on purpose, he was called out in his posts about this multiple times but continued to do so

    9 votes